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Cochise
hi Chieftainoz
havent read all the replies but I have a DarkHorse and have only once taken it to 160kmh
at the time of doing that I had already fitted stage 2 cams Stage 1 air cleaner and pipes
The bike accelerated to 160 through the gears nicely admitting the Dark Horse is lighter
but have no real need to sit at that speed
cruising at the state limit is good enough....even below is just as comforting
not sure what difference would have been as stock
also the catalytic mesh in the sealed exhaust can be removed for the ultimate in flow but suggest a specialist for that work
cheers
Phil

2016 Dark Horse 

Stage 2 cams

Stage 1 Air Cleaner

Stage 1 Exhaust

Aeromach Floorboard Lowering Kit

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theMucker
Are you certain that the clutch isn't slipping? When you open the throttle, do the RPMs seem to be increasing inordinately faster than the speeds?
The reason I ask is because I've recently fixed a TS111 that had similar issues. That bike struggled to get to 140 KPH, because the clutch was slipping so badly. I put in a Barnett clutch pack because the owner wanted it, but I suspect it was caused by the Judder Spring being installed facing the wrong way at the factory. In any case, WITH BOTH the correctly installed Judder Spring and the Barnett clutch kit, the bike runs strong to MUCH higher speeds now.Judder Spring is #5.jpg 
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CheiftainOz
theMucker wrote:
Are you certain that the clutch isn't slipping?


Yep - certain that isn't the problem.

And for every one else here - I went for a ride to the 'Lower Lakes' yesterday and can (at least relatively) happily report back that removing those 2 plugs from the standard filter has had a markedly positive result! It no longer struggles to get to 160kph, in fact the bike will cruise nicely at that speed now. If there's enough road top speed is just barely touching 180kph. I am relieved and again, strongly recommend anyone with the standard filter take those plugs out - the bike rides so much better at ALL speeds now!

I'm still a little disappointed ( I know I'm hard to please [frown] ) i was hoping an 1811cc engine would get me over the 200kph mark - I guess I'm just gonna have to get the air cleaner, pipes and stage 2 cams fitted at some point . . .

Oh and probably that aftermarket ECU tuner thingy.
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CHF10
Stage 1 intake, exhaust and tune or there's no point having these bikes. The engine is more than capable mate. It's emissions laws that mean they're choked from the factory.
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V-Twin
CheiftainOz wrote:
I'm still a little disappointed ( I know I'm hard to please [frown] ) i was hoping an 1811cc engine would get me over the 200kph mark - I guess I'm just gonna have to get the air cleaner, pipes and stage 2 cams fitted at some point . . .
I have the Vintage (ride without the screen), Indian high flow Air Cleaner, slip-on pipes that flows better than Indian Stage 1 pipes, Power Commander V custom dyno tuned and it has not hit 200kph... I think there is a speed limiter or the bike is not aerodynamic enough.  

Glad your bike can hit 160kph with ease now.  One question.  When your dealerremoved the 'plug' behind the air cleaner, do you know if they plugged their laptop to your bike?  I am wondering if they revised your tune as well OR the plug was the sole cause of choking.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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CheiftainOz
V-Twin wrote:
I have the Vintage (ride without the screen), Indian high flow Air Cleaner, slip-on pipes that flows better than Indian Stage 1 pipes, Power Commander V custom dyno tuned and it has not hit 200kph... I think there is a speed limiter or the bike is not aerodynamic enough.  

Glad your bike can hit 160kph with ease now. One question. When your dealer removed the 'plug' behind the air cleaner, do you know if they plugged their laptop to your bike?  I am wondering if they revised your tune as well OR the plug was the sole cause of choking.


First, if it is speed limited - won't the 'Power Vision CX' overwrite that? It says on the ad "Speed limit raised". Then again when it comes to advertisements one has to read them carefully and that doesn't say "speed limit erased" . . .

I wasn't there when they did that - I talked about it with them when I took it in for it's 2nd service. Judging by what he said to me they simply removed those plugs.
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theMucker
CheiftainOz wrote:


First, if it is speed limited - won't the 'Power Vision CX' overwrite that? It says on the ad "Speed limit raised". Then again when it comes to advertisements one has to read them carefully and that doesn't say "speed limit erased" . . .

I wasn't there when they did that - I talked about it with them when I took it in for it's 2nd service. Judging by what he said to me they simply removed those plugs.


I believe that the phrase regarding raising the speed limit means that the rev-limit (redline) is raised above what the factory sets it at.
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V-Twin
CheiftainOz wrote:
First, if it is speed limited - won't the 'Power Vision CX' overwrite that? It says on the ad "Speed limit raised"
Power Vision CX is the new Dynojet device that can reprogram factory ECM, so yes, it should be able to increase the top speed (one way or another).  My Power Commander V is old tech and it is a piggy back system so it cannot over ride factory settings like the top speed.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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CheiftainOz
Oh I made a mistake - it wasn't during the 2nd service the plugs were removed, it was when I had the front fender replaced so I very much doubt they would have done any tuning.
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CheiftainOz
Hi Cochise,

Just wondering if your 'Aeromach Floorboard Lowering Kit' has any affect on the lean/cornering?

Cheers.
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