Hunter
Hey guys. I recently purchased a PVCX for my scout sixty. Firstly these things are super easy to use, just plug in, click a few buttons, and go eat a sandwich. When you get back your ecu will have a fancy new tune on it.

The software is a little bit of a nightmare that looks like it was programmed in the late nineties, but once you work out how to navigate the clunky interface it is at least useable. The stock unit came with six tunes preloaded for various stages of exhausts and air cleaners. You can also build your own tunes or download more as they become available. 

As for the bike's behavior... Wow.. I did not realize how poorly tuned a stock scout sixty was until I changed it. I read somewhere recently that someone thought Indian was detuning the sixties to set them apart from the sixty nines. I now wholeheartedly believe that to be true. I have no solid numbers to back this up, only opinion and experience. 

Power delivery has been smoothed out across the board. My engine no longer feels bogged down in lower rpm, and where it used to stop giving around five and a half thousand, it now keeps pulling like a champ right up to eight grand. That alone was worth the price of admission. I wasn't really expecting a huge performance upgrade, so I was very pleased with the better throttle response and smoother power delivery. 

The best part is, now that I have the unit, I can do any performance upgrades down the line and have the proper tune flashed in under fifteen minutes. 

So bottom line. Easy to use, inexpensive, and if you plan on needing to refine your tune at home, extremely useful.

If I come up with downsides I'll add to this later.
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Peter C
Sounds like a great addition, where did you purchase it from and what was the cost?
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Hunter
I purchased mine from revzilla.com for roughly $360 American. They do ship internationally, but there are probably better sources for getting one to Australia. I personally like revzilla because they have good customer service and free shipping within the 48 states on any order over forty dollars. 
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Hunter
I believe standard cost from dynojet is 400 American dollars
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V-Twin
Peter C wrote:
where did you purchase it from and what was the cost?
Several members purchased their's from FuelMoto USA. I think this is the link: https://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-33970-dynojet-power-vision-cx.html

The benefit is they have their own tunes.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Dr.Shifty
Since the OP there have been some changes to the PVCX because of how Indian constantly updates ECU info. They no longer come with stock tunes to choose from. And the set up instructions are outdated and a dog's breakfast that now go nowhere.

For anyone putting one on a Scout, here's my experience. (Get used to the 1980s low res LCD interface)

The setup instructions say to connect to the bike and turn on ignition (the unit will write itself an INFO file). The unit will report on four possible file states relating to what files it finds. It will now say File State 1, no files found, and ask you to connect the unit to a Dynojet site. Once there you upload the INFO file and 'supposedly' the site will give you the tune file. It wont have any files for you. The end.

Here's the fix.

The top button is the menu button but it doesn't do anything in the File State page. (They don't tell you this)
Hit the bottom button to clear the File State screen, then you can go into the menu. (They don't tell you this)
Go to VEHICLE TOOLS and then choose READ ECM. The unit will get the stuff it needs. (They don't tell this this either)

Disconnect from bike and connect to computer. The unit now has the INFO file and a stk file.
It's these files that either Dynojet or FuelMoto need to set up your custom DJT tune file.
I bought mine from Fuel Moto and it was a matter of emailing the files to them.

When you get the tune file back connect PVCX to bike.
Go into menu and to DEVICE TOOLS, DEVICE INFO, PAIR WITH VEHICLE.
This locks the unit to this bike only.
Go to MAIN MENU, FLASH TUNE and pick the .DJT file you received.
It will take 15 minutes to flash. Once done, turn off ignition for a minute.

Disconnect and ride.
Don't bother wiping the smile off your face because of how the bike feels. [smile]
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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Scout LE MKIII
Hi Dr.Shifty,
I have been looking into the PVCX and thinking about getting one for a while. Can I take it from your “Don’t bother wiping the smile off your face ..” comment that you would definitely recommend it, even with the initial headaches you had in getting the unit paired and programmed?
Townsville QLD
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Dr.Shifty
Very definitely. I balked at the price for months. It was $571 AUD - starting at $380 US, plus $51 shipping, then exchange rate increase. That's when I told myself that I'd spent over $600 on the OEM windscreen which is a piece of junk, this has got to be better value. [smile]

The first thing I noticed is that the initial throttle slack had gone. There is no 'loose' zone for the first few degrees.
Then -
- the throttle runs at a steeper ramp angle, less throttle gives more revs. The 'fly-by-wire' throttle makes this adjustable.
- the motor is smoother and more tractable so I don't need to feather the throttle at low speeds such as following slow traffic.
- the vibes I used to get approaching 5,000 rpm are noticeably less. It used to feel like the motor was working against itself. Now it feels like it's getting very serious.
- the bike runs into high revs more easily (less throttle rotation is part of that) and keeps up the grunt.

I've not tried pushing it beyond legal speeds but it will obviously get very illegal very quickly.
I've yet to compare fuel consumption as I've only had it on for a week or so and will see how it goes with a few fills.
Some people report the bike as running cooler. I've not checked that.

The official setup guide is useless but the unit is very easy to use once you get the proper instructions - as I've noted.

If I was to get it tuned by a tuning shop I'd pay a high price for one tune. Further mods and I'd be up for the money all over again. This way I can get in touch with FuelMoto, tell them the new mods, and they write another custom tune as part of the original purchase.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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Scout LE MKIII
All sounds very positive. I will look to get mine towards the middle of next month. Thx for the feedback and information etc. 
Townsville QLD
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Vagabond
As noted depending on where you buy it from you get 2 tune options. For a majority of places where you would buy the PVCX from you will only be able to get Dynojet tunes. If you buy from Fuel Moto you will also have access to their tunes though currently they have no Scout specific tunes and I believe they are still offering just the Dynojet tune. (I could be wrong as it was a couple of months ago when I last asked FM)
Apparently FM were going to have some Scout tunes available end of their winter but I have not seen them yet but I did stop looking as I ended up going a different way with the tune after finding these threads. 

http://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/pvcx-and-our-ecu-tuning-topics-for-the-not-faint-hearted.90569/

http://myindianroadmaster.blogspot.com.au/p/b.html?m=1

There is another thread on the US forum but do you think I can find it right now?!
As good as the Dynojet and fuel moto tunes are.. They are still a relatively generic tune. 
By following the videos by CraigB1960 on his blog plus advice on the other forum doing a tune specific to your bike and riding style is a pretty simple exercise.

Craig has worked in conjunction with Dynojet and has written scripts that can be run through the powercore software that allows the user to tune their bike using the narrow band sensors after taking run logs with the PVCX. While not ideal you can still tune approx 90-95% of your operating range. 

The 5-10% you won't be able to tune using the narrow band sensors is your high load high rpm range (Wide open throttle) and that to you should soon be able to do these areas as Dynojet are to release something called the WBCX which is for wide band sensor tuning.
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Vagabond
Here's the other thread
http://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/dynojets-power-vision-cx-flash-tuner.46561/

The PVCX and its software is quite a cool little tool when you start to realise what it and you can do with it. 
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Scout LE MKIII
Thanks for the info Vagabond and especially the time taken to link the forum discussions.  Looks like I have some heavy reading ahead me. 
Townsville QLD
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