Indiannewbie
I recently decided to get the 2018 Indian dark horse over the Harley street glide. I won’t have my bike for 2 weeks so I don’t have much to say yet but I wanted to join some conversations and learn more in-depth about the brand and the 111 motor. Excuse my ignorance I grew up riding dirt bikes I currently still enjoy riding my ktm in enduros so i can gladly help anyone with questions about that haha. 
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hallzee
Welcome to the forums mate
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BigTone
Welcome to the forum Indiannewbie...you're going to love that dark horse. A great bike and motor. Ask any questions and I'm sure some will will give you an answer.
enjoy!
Cheers,
Tony
St. Kilda  Victoria
IMRG: 20380071
Current Ride: 2020 Dark Horse Challenger 
Previous Ride: 2015 Roadmaster
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V-Twin
Hey Indiannewbie, welcome to our forum.  Where about in the world are you from?  I hear 2018 Thunder Stroke 111 might be quiet.  Look forward to hearing if that is the case after several thousand kms.  
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Indiannewbie
Thank you everyone, I’m from New Jersey USA, the bike has a nice bark but comparing to a Harley it’s quiet. I got to test drive it and it handled great I just wasn’t impressed with the overall power. Here they stopped production of the stage 3 116 kit bc of various issues it’s expexted to come back out in September with fixes but I’m reluctant to go for it. So currently I’m having a beefy stage 2 done. A beautiful Lloyd’s intake the bigger 585 Lloyd’s cams rinehart exhaust and the power vision cx tuner, I’m holding off on installing the injectors until it can be put on the Dyno per Lloyd’s recommendation. Supposed this match up gives comparable power to the 116 kit. I heard this set up on another bike and that was louder meaner and left some rubber on the road! I’ll be sure to let you know how it is in another 10 days when I get to pick it up. But any experiences anyone has with the 585 cams please chime in. Thank you!
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Croc
Heya Indiannewbie, welcome to the forum.
I agree, when I got my Chief it was (& is) a lot quieter than my Harleys, but wait until you get up to speed
out on the road!  The bike vibrates my garage but the note when it is doing 160Kms plus drowns out most
hogs!)  Enjoy mate.  ðŸ˜‹
I'm Not Completely Useless . .
I Can Be Used As A Bad Example!

Kwinana W.A.

Ulysses   #48275
IMRG      #100932
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V-Twin
But any experiences anyone has with the 585 cams please chime in. Thank you!
If you haven’t seen this post... glad you have a solid plan and modifying your bike accordingly.  Only negative I’ve hear about 585 is that it makes the top end more noisy.

http://www.indianmotorcycleforum.com.au/post/mega-shootout-stage-2-cams-vs-lloydz-558-vs-lloydz-585-vs-116ci-stage-3-9712532

Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Indiannewbie
Thank you I have seen that. There is actually a post on YouTube from a guy who has the 116 kit with the 585 cams and says it’s amazing with around 134 HP which tops those charts, that’s the other reason I went that direction I hate spending money twice so if I do go with the 116 later I can keep these cams they are better than what comes with the stage 3 kit. I’m still curious what the issues are with the 116, the dealer sold a 116 bike and the owner seems to love it so far. No one here at the dealer has said out loud what kind of failures caused the stop work order. 
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V-Twin
I hate spending money twice so if I do go with the 116 later I can keep these cams they are better than what comes with the stage 3 kit.
Good thinking.  👍😀

I’m still curious what the issues are with the 116, the dealer sold a 116 bike and the owner seems to love it so far.
We only have speculations as Polaris will not tell us why the S3BB kit has been taken off the market but this is what we know.  The 1st Gen S3BB kit has 11:1 compression ratio.  Which many engine guilders will tell us it is too high.  Apparently, 10.2:1 or 10.3:1 is ideal.  On top of that, the factory tune was pinging (pre-detonation) its head off... at least with Australian factory tune.  Now to our speculation.  Pre-detonation means the fuel and air mixture has ignited during the piston compression cycle.  Normally, we want the ignition at the top of the compression cycle, just as the piston is about to move down.  Because of the pre-ignition, piston and rod is compressing exploding gas to reach the top.  This puts a huge load on the rods, leading to breakage.  Speculation is that Polaris will adjust the kit and bring down the compression (new pistons?) and spend some time revising the factory tune.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Indiannewbie
Now that would make allot of sense, I hope they stand behind their products out in the field and offer them corrections and updates for free, around here I heard of a guy with 22,000 miles on his 116 already with zero issues, perhaps he’s just been lucky 🤭🤫
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Indiannewbie
Thank you for the insight I’m eager to see what they release in August 
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V-Twin
around here I heard of a guy with 22,000 miles on his 116 already with zero issues, perhaps he’s just been lucky 🤭🤫
If folks have had aftermarket tune installed, that seems to prevent 116 from popping... as there are no pinging. 😀
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Cloud
Welcom to the forum indiannewbie, we have a resident on this forum who runs a Dark Horse with a 116, Im sure he'll pick up on your post soon
Ride Safe, Ride Often
2016 Chief Dark Horse
with a few modest mods
NOR Perth WA


IMRG AU - 101381
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Nudge
Welcome to the forum, Enjoy
Cheers 👍
Leo
Sunbury, Victoria
IMRG: AU101514
2017 Indian Scout.

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Robbo
G'day Indiannewbie
Welcome to the forum. Questions are always welcome,  one of us is bound to make something up if we don't know the answer 😉
2017 Dark Horse  - Stage 2, Rush Pipes

Location - Perth, Western Australia
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Indiannewbie
My current question is if anyone is running the 585 cams and if so do u have the larger injectors in? Lloyd’s tells you not to install them until after u dyno it bc some bikes may not need them but if you were on the fence why wouldn’t you just go for the larger injectors? 
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Robbo
I think the answer is (very basically I admit)  that there is an optimum performance window for fuel delivery with injectors. Too high and you can have delivery problems at higher revs, too low and it doesnt atomise the fuel fully or as well. You need to find injectors that works in the sweet spot for your engine.
2017 Dark Horse  - Stage 2, Rush Pipes

Location - Perth, Western Australia
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Jollster
Welcome Indiannewbie. There’s some quality members here. 
2017 Thunder Black Scout.
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Indiannewbie
Thank you, my buddy just bought a 2018 Indian scout and absolutely loves it I’m going to encourage him to join as well 
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Crunch
Hey Tietz
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Indiannewbie
Hello proud scout owner 
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stevenlb21
How you going Indiannewbie, welcome to the forum and I hope you find all the info you need sprinkled with a bit a BS which makes it interesting
Cheers......Steve
Penrith, NSW

2015 Indian Chieftain (Indian Motorcycle Red)
"TECUMSEH"
IMRG Membership No.  AU101486

Meanwhile back at the Ranch, Tonto disguised as a door gets his knob shot off !!!.

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Nudge
Welcome to the forum.
Cheers 👍
Leo
Sunbury, Victoria
IMRG: AU101514
2017 Indian Scout.

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Crunch
Thanks 😎
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Tezza
Welcome to the forum Indiannewbie.

IMRG  AU101238
Ulysses  25368

2017 Indian Scout
2013 Boulevard C50T
Penrith, NSW
Never lose your sense of humour.  [smile]

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