V-Twin
While we were away in Alice Springs, one rider lost their fob and another bike started honking when starting the bike (to indicate the fob battery was low OR fob started losing connection with the bike).

This applies to all Indian motorcycles except Scouts.

Aside from carrying a spare CR2033 button cell battery (from electronic shops like Radio Parts for a $1), it is a good idea to know how to start the bike with your PIN (assuming, your dealer set the PIN for you at the time of delivery).


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HOW TO START YOUR BIKE WITH PIN
  1. Press the 'Power button' (black round button) on your fuel tank once.  Dash should light up.
  2. Wait for the fuel pump to stop priming (couple of seconds).  This gives onboard computer time to boot up.
  3. Using the turn signal indicator, 'type' in your PIN.  Starting from 'left'.  So, if your PIN is 1234.  This is how you would enter it: Left, Right, Right, Left, Left, Left, Right, Right, Right, Right.  (All at a moderate speed - say 2 - 3 button presses per second or faster)
  4. If you have 'entered' the PIN without error and within reasonable time frame, the red light on Power button will disappear.  You should be able to press the 'Engine Start' button and fire up the bike now.
  5. If the red light on the 'Power button' is still red, either your PIN was incorrect OR you took too long to type in the PIN OR you tried to cancel the turn signal by pressing (not left or right) - this would be interpreted as 'zero' in your PIN.  Switch the bike off by pressing the power button and start again.
I hope none of your picked 9999 as your PIN... you will be there all day!!!    [biggrin]


UPDATE - FEBRUARY 2017

All the Polaris owned Indian dealerships use the same 'default' PIN.  If you happen to know what that is, try it on your bike to make sure that code has been disabled on your bike (for security reasons).
Melbourne, Victoria
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Horrock
Just a small clarification on the procedure, which is is correctly stated by V-Twin in his advisory.

If your PIN contains a zero, the "push-in" manoeuvre replaces the next left or right inputs in your sequence.

A couple of examples to help you with the concept:

PIN 0123 would be in, right, left left, right right right.

PIN 1203 would be left, right right, in, right right right.

Hope this helps, cheers.
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Albany, Western Australia
ex 2015 Roadmaster 
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kmoulds
Both great posts and thanks.

I suggest that everyone print it out and put it in their wallets or somewhere else which is accessible should the worst happen.

Again great post and thanks.

Cheers Kym - Sydney - NSW
2016 custom painted red & black Indian Springfield
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Robbo
I start mine on the code every now and then just to make sure I remember how.
2017 Dark Horse  - Stage 2, Rush Pipes

Location - Perth, Western Australia
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AAMC
A word to anyone who had an early version of the recent 111 recall ECU reflash. The early versions of the reflash allocated new master PIN's and deleted the old master PIN and any "personal" PIN's installed by owners.
Once the later (International) Stage 1, 1.5 & 2 updates came, they had rectified this and it retained the existing PIN codes. So, it may pay for owners to just check their PIN codes work so they don't come unstuck if / when they really need to use them. [smile]
Regards Rick
All American Motorcycles
Authorised Indian Motorcycle Dealership
6 Olive Grove, Ringwood, Victoria
allamericanmotorcycles.com.au
03 9879 3322
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BenDRhodes
I use my PIN every couple of weeks as a matter of course when I move the bike to clean it.   I keep the fob in and inside pocket in my jacket and rarely take it out of the jacket.   So when I move the bike at home and can't be bothered retrieving the fob I use the PIN.   

Maybe I am a bit more au fait with technology, but I can't see what the hassle is.
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V-Twin
BenDRhodes wrote:

Maybe I am a bit more au fait with technology, but I can't see what the hassle is.

I think it is easy once someone does it couple of times but most people have not used PIN so...
Melbourne, Victoria
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Jimbo
AAMC wrote:
A word to anyone who had an early version of the recent 111 recall ECU reflash. The early versions of the reflash allocated new master PIN's and deleted the old master PIN and any "personal" PIN's installed by owners.
Once the later (International) Stage 1, 1.5 & 2 updates came, they had rectified this and it retained the existing PIN codes. So, it may pay for owners to just check their PIN codes work so they don't come unstuck if / when they really need to use them. [smile]
Regards Rick


Hey Rick,

Good reminder. Mine was done in Canberra and I didn't realise until I got home that the Master and my own PIN were gone.  The dealer didn't know either.

Are you saying that there is now also a re-flash for those of us with the Stage 1s?  This wasn't available when mine was done but I wasn't overly concerned - I spoke with somebody at Polaris in Melbourne (Greg or Glen??)  who said that they were expecting a different 're-flash' for the Stage 1 bikes, but it hadn't turned up yet!
2014 Indian Chief Classic  (Red)  #111
2015 Indian Scout  (Red)  Not the red one that fell off the truck!
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V-Twin
Jimbo wrote:

I spoke with somebody at Polaris in Melbourne (Greg or Glen??)  who said that they were expecting a different 're-flash' for the Stage 1 bikes, but it hadn't turned up yet!

Indian has released flash for stock, stage 1, air cleaner, both stage 1 + air cleaner, stage 2 with everything. Go and get a revised tune Jimbo.
Melbourne, Victoria
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crash
I wonder if this is the same one that was included in the recall?
Ulysses #30673
IMRG #AU100394
Current: RoadMaster (ebony and ivory)
Highett Victoria Australia
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V-Twin
crash wrote:
I wonder if this is the same one that was included in the recall?

How do you mean Crash?
Melbourne, Victoria
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CHF10

Ironically they had misplaced the fob when I went to pick up my weekend (turned into 4 days) test ride. So I used the PIN. Subsequently I now know what all the bikes in the dealer's PIN is. LOL.

I use my PIN a lot. In fact part of me prefers it. I keep my fob hidden away in the house where it'll never be found if someone breaks in when I'm not home. I don't mind using the PIN at all. Only problem is when I go for a quick after work ride and forget I have also locked the forks! lol

The best way to know if your PIN is accepted is if your bike is in N when you enter it, acceptance of it will illuminate the N light.

Something I found out my bike has without knowing about it, I even asked at the dealer as I like that the HD SGS has it, is an alarm. I pressed the fob lock button twice and it beeped at me. At first I just thought it was one of those confirmation beeps telling you "yes, stop already, I'm locked" but then I got on without the fob and stood the bike up and all hell broke loose. Great Dane was howling and barking, wife was yelling and I was like, "shit, what's the PIN". Hahahaha!

 

so two things I asked before I bought where did the Chieftain have an alarm and self-cancelling indicators. Told no to both and it actually does have both!

Live free or die!
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Airhead
"Great Dane howling and barking"  I can relate to that, I have two of them.
I like bluegrass, banjos and motorcycles.
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JuanPoop
A bit of thread resurrection...
I worked through the process of loading my own rider pin and have been using it frequently on the new SF and am confident I have it locked into the memory bank. I do like that facility. 
When I got the bike I searched everywhere for the master pin, but couldn't see it anywhere on purchase paperwork or user manual.  
Decided I will just get it at the first service, which was today. 
When I gave the service bloke my list of stuff to look at, including giving me the master pin, he said they didn't provide the that pin. I asked why not. He mumbled something about policy and when I kept asking he said he would get a manager.
The manager tride the same line and I then started on a path of asking him who he thinks owns this bike, that they once did and no longer do and that I bought ALL of the bike, including all information associated with it.  He said it was a security matter, in case I sold the bike in the future. 
That is about when I put on the 'you are f-ing kidding me voice'. I said something like 'so you are saying that I might sell the bike one day in the distant future and then use the master pin to steal it off the person I sold it to.  Would that not make me a very strong suspect? Do you get how stupid this all sounds?'  I made it clear that i own that pin and they need to provide me with it.  
Anyway after some huffing and puffing I was given the master pin ... with an apology. 
Rode the bike home and am quite hopeful I don't need to see him again for 7,000 more kms.  
Everything else went great.
... and I absolutely love the bike!

aka - John
2017 Springfield - grey/burgundy
Northern Beaches - Sydney 
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CHF10

Wow! I was given my master PIN without question...

They flashed my bike at the 800km service (as I expected them to do) but didn't set any new PINs. So I went in the next day (not on the bike - dealer is 200m from my work) and spoke with one of the sales guys as the service guy wasn't there. A couple of clicks on a keyboard, a post-it note and a pen, and I had my master pin. Now I've reset my own PIN and the master PIN in the safe at home.

Nice idea on selling the bike and the taking it back! LOL!!! I do understand the security point, and it is somewhat valid. When I did a test ride, they had misplaced the fob so gave me the PIN. Turns out it's the PIN the shop uses on every bike. I could have a nice collection of Indians if I wanted to. LOL!!! (jokes) But they should be more worried about someone hacking their computer system, getting all the names and addresses and master PINs of the bikes. I mean, my bigger concern here is that our master PINs are on their systems along with all our other details!

Live free or die!
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JuanPoop
CHF10 wrote:

Wow! I was given my master PIN without question...

They flashed my bike at the 800km service (as I expected them to do) but didn't set any new PINs. So I went in the next day (not on the bike - dealer is 200m from my work) and spoke with one of the sales guys as the service guy wasn't there. A couple of clicks on a keyboard, a post-it note and a pen, and I had my master pin. Now I've reset my own PIN and the master PIN in the safe at home.

Nice idea on selling the bike and the taking it back! LOL!!! I do understand the security point, and it is somewhat valid. When I did a test ride, they had misplaced the fob so gave me the PIN. Turns out it's the PIN the shop uses on every bike. I could have a nice collection of Indians if I wanted to. LOL!!! (jokes) But they should be more worried about someone hacking their computer system, getting all the names and addresses and master PINs of the bikes. I mean, my bigger concern here is that our master PINs are on their systems along with all our other details!



Yes, the way it should be, but I see you are from Melbourne, maybe people are more honest down there...
I also get the security issue, but that goes both ways.  There are a lot of people in their dealership who have access to my master pin and I wasn't going to be gIven it. They can trust the dozens of people with system access to dozens of master pins on file, but not the actual owner. I didn't get it. 
I just couldn't get past the fact that I own this bike, I paid over $34k for it, they don't own it - and they thought they could retain ownership of a 'key' part of it.  Sheesh!!
Anyway I have it now and if my bike ever gets stolen, I know where I will be directing some of the investigation. 
Meanwhile, I will ride the best bike I have ever owned as much as I can...
[thumb]

aka - John
2017 Springfield - grey/burgundy
Northern Beaches - Sydney 
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faceonahead
Got master pin no questions asked out of Brisbane while I was up there for 6 months working
2018 Dark horse Chieftain, stage 3 cams and 116BB KIT and a stack of minor mostly cosmetic mods
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V-Twin
JuanPoop wrote:


Yes, the way it should be, but I see you are from Melbourne, maybe people are more honest down there...
Hey JP, maybe you looked a little scruffy when you walked in the dealer!  😜
Melbourne, Victoria
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JuanPoop
V-Twin wrote:
Hey JP, maybe you looked a little scruffy when you walked in the dealer!  😜


Ha! That is usually the case, so probably. 

aka - John
2017 Springfield - grey/burgundy
Northern Beaches - Sydney 
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Croc
Having had FOB problems, I can attest to the fact that a low PIN is a good idea!  The first time I had a period on no FOB I changed my PIN after about a week.  I was actually getting worried about breaking/damaging the indicator switch!   Then, I would've really been stuffed!
Besides, "0000" is really easy to remember!  Oh, wait,.......   ðŸ˜±
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