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OzOldie wrote:
...but I'd not be continually flashing anyway, just get the stock then the modified "better tune" from FMoto or Craig, flash it the once.  It might need a re-flash after a service, if they update that (but then it'd likely need the new Indy flash taken as stock and another modded tune made anyway).  I'm not one who'd be flashing 5 times a year, I'm not after perfection
Hmmmm... it usually doesn't work out as you planned.  You get a downloaded or email tune and you try it.  It is okay for the first few days and they start popping or pinging, so you email the supplier and get another tune.  Try that.  When the weather gets hotter, odd things start to happen and you are ready for another tune.  You get sick of it after a year and you either go back to the factory tune (if you are only running Indian performance mods) or have to go the full custom dyno tune (if you have gone aftermarket like the Lloydz 558 cams).

By comparison, how many times do most owners get their factory tunes updated by their dealers?  Once every scheduled service?  So, if a bike has done 40,000kms, that's about 6 services or 6 tune updates.  If you had issues that you have reported to the dealer, they may have updated the tune in between services, that's +1.  If there was a factory recall requiring a tune update, another +1.

I don't think most folks know this but Polaris digital wrench system (laptop that is connected to your bike) will NOT let the dealer reinstall the same version of the factory tune on a bike without prior authorisation from Polaris AU HQ!!  Can you guess why??? 🤔

So, this sample Indian owner would have a tune count of about 8 at about 40,000kms.

What do you suppose the tune count would be for a typical Indian owner who has played with the PVCX, at a similar mileage?  Especially if they are getting the remote tuning or custom dyno tuning done (which requires 5 to 10 tune updates).  20 in total?  30?  40?  Do you think that will be noticed by Polaris???

Fortunately, Thunder Stroke engines are solid and nothing will probably happen, but you could be unlucky and have a small-ish issue like a broken valve spring (which is known to happen on our engines).  To fix that, the engine has to come out and that is already a thousand dollar job!!  Add to that, disassembly of the engine, replacement of springs and repairing any damage the broken valve or the spring might have done and you are up for a big bucks!

Dispite this post, I’m not against tuning.  I just don’t want to see anyone get caught up chasing that extra power or smoother ride or whatever without assessing the possible consequences.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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OzOldie
Yeah, you make a very good point there.

I'm neither pro or anti it, and I also firmly believe that if a company can find a way to not have a warranty valid (and save themselves thousands), they will.  (I wish i could trust companies but I'm a realist and reality is sh!t)
They aren't there for us, they are there for themselves, customers are just the mechanism of their profits.

I'd be more likely to keep a bike stock for the life of the warranty then make changes when it's run out (of warranty).  As you say, solid engines but I also know Murphy's Law...
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gc3
The latest and last addition to my Road Master arrived today so I will be installing them some time today. I have put these off for so long but finally gave in as I love the fact of having the rear end of the bike stand out in traffic for safety . Plus they do look great on the bike lol.
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2019 Metallic Burgundy Road Master, Stage 1 Exhaust with 6 Shooter Tips, Hi-Flow Air Filter, Heel Shifter , added Trunk taillight,  Stage 3 Big Bore Kit with ,Power Vision and custom  Dyno tune. Highway pegs, clear 3m paint protection.
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Washbrook
gc3. You must have an understanding wife spending all this extra $$$.
Norman Hall [aka Washbrook]
Man of Few Words
2017 Indian Roadmaster [Willow Green over Ivory Cream]
1999 Vulcan Drifter
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BigTone
He probably forgot to tell her 😂😂
Cheers,
Tony
St. Kilda  Victoria
IMRG: 20380071
Current Ride: 2020 Dark Horse Challenger 
Previous Ride: 2015 Roadmaster
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gc3
Well I fitted the legs today but the left one kept shorting out or should I say, would not work with the Brake light the Tail. light worked fine but when the brake was applied they left one stayed the same how ever the right worked as it should. I did a trial fit before fitting them to the bike and they worked but them the same issue as mentioned. I changed the wiring around and they worked, so I then installed them on the bike . That when they did the same bloody thing . I have sent a email to the guys I bought them from in the USA but ,I did buy these through their eBay store so I asked if they can help me get them replaced. I am willing to pay the postage again but the issue is they are on the bike and once I take them off they won't have the double sided tape. I am not spending another small fortune buying a new set. One is faulty so I hope the store I bought them from Via Their eBay Global shopping store can assist me.  This is alway a issue buying from over seas and a good lesson why not bother doing again.
2019 Metallic Burgundy Road Master, Stage 1 Exhaust with 6 Shooter Tips, Hi-Flow Air Filter, Heel Shifter , added Trunk taillight,  Stage 3 Big Bore Kit with ,Power Vision and custom  Dyno tune. Highway pegs, clear 3m paint protection.
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OzOldie
gc3 wrote:
Well I fitted the legs today but the left one kept shorting out or should I say, would not work with the Brake light the Tail. light worked fine but when the brake was applied they left one stayed the same how ever the right worked as it should. I did a trial fit before fitting them to the bike and they worked but them the same issue as mentioned. I changed the wiring around and they worked, so I then installed them on the bike . That when they did the same bloody thing . I have sent a email to the guys I bought them from in the USA but ,I did buy these through their eBay store so I asked if they can help me get them replaced. I am willing to pay the postage again but the issue is they are on the bike and once I take them off they won't have the double sided tape. I am not spending another small fortune buying a new set. One is faulty so I hope the store I bought them from Via Their eBay Global shopping store can assist me.  This is alway a issue buying from over seas and a good lesson why not bother doing again.


If they are faulty and you bought them through ebay you should have used ebay to tell them, paper trail..

And ebay will open a "dispute" and follow it through.  For the last 5 or more years ebay will bend over backwards for a buyer (they got a very bad name before that for having thousands of shitbag sellers!)

You can still open the dispute now.
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gc3
OzOldie wrote:


If they are faulty and you bought them through ebay you should have used ebay to tell them, paper trail..

And ebay will open a "dispute" and follow it through.  For the last 5 or more years ebay will bend over backwards for a buyer (they got a very bad name before that for having thousands of shitbag sellers!)

You can still open the dispute now.
Thanks I am sure I can sort it out with the guys I bought it from. If not I can go down the dispute trail with eBay. I. prefer not to do that if I can work with the dealership, I have called them this morning our time 1.30am and they seemed to be helpful. The lady I spoke too is seeing her manager and what they can do for me, then will call me back to let me know what they can do. I am hoping they can just replace the lights and I am willing to send the faulty ones back them back to them at my cost. Just hoping they don't need them back because of the cost of postage for them and me.
2019 Metallic Burgundy Road Master, Stage 1 Exhaust with 6 Shooter Tips, Hi-Flow Air Filter, Heel Shifter , added Trunk taillight,  Stage 3 Big Bore Kit with ,Power Vision and custom  Dyno tune. Highway pegs, clear 3m paint protection.
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gc3
Hi guys ,
Just a update on some great service from Kuryakyn who are replacing my faulty led rear fender lights. I had a few emails back and forth to the guys at Kuryakyn. They were fantastic and helped me by replacing the strip lights and all I had to do was pay for postage. Living in Australia and dealing with the guys in the USA meant being up at some time between 1.30 am and 3 am to  finally call them so I could finalise the details of postage and payment. I would like to give a big shout out too the guys at Kuryakyn for their help and fantastic service. Now I just have to wait get the new set and put them on the bike . So looking forward to that.
2019 Metallic Burgundy Road Master, Stage 1 Exhaust with 6 Shooter Tips, Hi-Flow Air Filter, Heel Shifter , added Trunk taillight,  Stage 3 Big Bore Kit with ,Power Vision and custom  Dyno tune. Highway pegs, clear 3m paint protection.
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