Dilly
Hi Guys
I've been looking for info on how to get the best power out of my Springfield, so far I've removed the EU restriction in the frame, put a K&N filter in standard box and put V&H classic slipons  on the bike, I've used a PVCX tuner to update the tune, the fuel moto one puts the power too high up the rev range the dynojet seems more standard but gives a little more oomph
Now my problem, I'm about to remove the second restriction, the tunes I've been given run inline with a code from the bike, so both tunes I've been given are for a European bike ! Now can I get a tune for a derestricted bike and if so where ? and if I don't will I damage the bike
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V-Twin
Dilly wrote:
I've been given are for a European bike ! Now can I get a tune for a derestricted bike and if so where?
This would not be any help but I wonder you can clarify something for me?

Out of the factory, Indians come with tunes that satisfy our local EPA regulations so they are different from USA to Europe to Australia.  I get that.

Once an aftermarket tune like FuelMoto/Dynojet PVCX goes on to the bike (used for off road purposes 😜j, why are the tunes still regionalised?  ...instead of just one best tune?  What purpose does it serve? 

No doubt someone here with PVCX experience can assist with your question.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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crash
I thought the idea behind the PVCX units was so that you could apply your own tune to suit your own bike and riding conditions regardless of the locale of the machine.  Am I missing something?
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V-Twin
crash wrote:
I thought the idea behind the PVCX units was so that you could apply your own tune to suit your own bike and riding conditions regardless of the locale of the machine.  Am I missing something?
My knowledge is very limited but as far as I understand it, PVCX requires two files.  One is the base tune and the second is modified file?  I could be completely wrong.  And I believe FuelMoto asks customers to connect the PVCX to their bikes and email them a number... which tells FuelMoto what tune is currently installed on the bike.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Dilly
Hi
At the moment there are no dyno centers near me that can sort out tuning with pvcx, power commander is king here
Both dynojet and fuelmoto ask for a file before they send you one, looked on the dynojet website and there are tunes for European bikes inc one with indian slipon's and hi-flow filter ? ?
I really dont understand
Cheers Guys
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DAVO
When you connect a PVCX to the bike for the first time it records a info:txt file automatically that is what you email to Dynojet or Fuelmoto they can see which std tune you have and send you the std tune for your bike and a modified version to suit your bike eg: std, stage 1 or 2 etc as far as I know there are only 3 versions of the std tune used on the TS111,  Crash you can do data logs and use the logs to adjust your modified tune I have been testing the new 2.3 firmware for the PVCX with Craig B and Dynojet the last couple months before its public release a couple weeks ago have done a lot data logging with Craig on my Roadmaster to fine tune the stage 2 tune in my bike, Dilly I would join the US Indian site and look for the info on the PVCX in the performance section and contact forum member Craig b1960 he is the go to person when tuning with a PVCX he also has a blog called my Indian roadmaster you could contact him though that plenty of info there about the PVCX.
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BigTone
Good info Davo
Cheers,
Tony
St. Kilda  Victoria
IMRG: 20380071
Current Ride: 2020 Dark Horse Challenger 
Previous Ride: 2015 Roadmaster
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Dilly
Hi Guys
Found the other restriction, it,s a blanking plate in the airbox by the front cylinder, so dismantled the box today and removed it, can't post a pic on here due to size limit, but can be seen here

(Edit by Admin: I have added the picture for you)

reduced-air-intake.jpg 

http://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/european-springfield.199721/#post-2273601
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Dilly
Guys please note the piece above is just the blockage from the filter to engine 
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V-Twin
As requested, here is the other photo.

15106726134821237086571.jpg 
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Dilly
The above pic shows both parts of the EU4 restriction, the bottom one stops air getting to the filter, the top one restricts air into the engine from the filter, a double whammy
Now is there any else to change ?
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CHF10
I'm pretty much sold on getting a PVCX after this thread and checking out their website. Something so simple and easy to use can create such a much better experience without the need for a dyno. I love it!
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V-Twin
CHF10 wrote:
I'm pretty much sold on getting a PVCX after this thread and checking out their website. Something so simple and easy to use can create such a much better experience without the need for a dyno. I love it!
Do make sure you get it from FuelMoto website so you have access to more tunes.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Robbo
Dilly wrote:
the fuel moto one puts the power too high up the rev range the dynojet seems more standard but gives a little more oomph
Now can I get a tune for a derestricted bike and if so where ? and if I don't will I damage the bike

I have yet to set up my PVCX as I want to get some kms into the engine to make sure there are no issues before hand, so I have yet to test this. As I understand it you can request that fuel moto tweaks the tune to solve various issues such as popping and I presume they can alter where the power comes in to some extent. But you would have to create a log file for the PVCX and send it to them
2017 Dark Horse  - Stage 2, Rush Pipes

Location - Perth, Western Australia
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Kappy
I've had my PVCX since about march accessed via Fuelmoto.

Once connected it belongs to that machine.

I emailed the stock tune to Fuelmoto and within 2 days they emailed me an updated stock tune as factory tunes rune lean.

Without any others mods I immediately noticed a significant change in throttle response and felt a tad less noisy.

Then added K&N filter, fuelmoto emailed another tune.

I then added Freedom Performance Racing slip ons , once again they emailed an update map within days.

I'm more than happy with Fuelmoto customer service and they have answered all my queries within 2 days, due to time zone, one email came back the day , good timing. 

My RM runs well,I believe cooler than stock with plenty of grunt without big $$$$. outlay.

I believe I can record my riding style and send to Fuelmoto, also if I had the knowledge I could adjust my self, nut I'll leave that to the experts.

From their page
https://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28217-about-fuel-moto.html
Kappy

Growing Older is inevitable, Growing up is Optional.

BK AUS 1 68223
IMRG AU 101125

Current ride/s
2017 Indian Roadmaster-Willow Green/Ivory--Wicked Willow
Stage 3 BB 116
Freedom Racing slip on and Indian Fishtails.
Lots of Leather.
2000 ST1100 - AnaSTasia
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Dilly
Just watched Big Joe's you tube, he has a roadmaster, and is in Brisbane, it's a video on fitting Lloydz arrowhead filter, he showed his old air box, you boys have thd international parts too.!
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Kappy
Dilly wrote:
Just watched Big Joe's you tube, he has a roadmaster, and is in Brisbane, it's a video on fitting Lloydz arrowhead filter, he showed his old air box, you boys have thd international parts too.!

Any link
Kappy

Growing Older is inevitable, Growing up is Optional.

BK AUS 1 68223
IMRG AU 101125

Current ride/s
2017 Indian Roadmaster-Willow Green/Ivory--Wicked Willow
Stage 3 BB 116
Freedom Racing slip on and Indian Fishtails.
Lots of Leather.
2000 ST1100 - AnaSTasia
Past rides irrelevant. except Suzuki RG500
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Kappy
Robbo wrote:

I have yet to set up my PVCX as I want to get some kms into the engine to make sure there are no issues before hand, so I have yet to test this. As I understand it you can request that fuel moto tweaks the tune to solve various issues such as popping and I presume they can alter where the power comes in to some extent. But you would have to create a log file for the PVCX and send it to them


Once you pair the PVCX to yr ride it records the stock tune, send that to Fuelmoto and they'll send a new stock tune.

You'll see the difference.
Kappy

Growing Older is inevitable, Growing up is Optional.

BK AUS 1 68223
IMRG AU 101125

Current ride/s
2017 Indian Roadmaster-Willow Green/Ivory--Wicked Willow
Stage 3 BB 116
Freedom Racing slip on and Indian Fishtails.
Lots of Leather.
2000 ST1100 - AnaSTasia
Past rides irrelevant. except Suzuki RG500
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Dilly
https://youtu.be/UltJYjIAKYw
Check out the original stuff on the floor
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