KiwiGriff

Those running Michelin Commander II tyres on Roadmaster - do you run pressure as per manual or ? 

Previous owner used to run them much less but I'm a believer that they're set cold at a certain PSI for a reason.  Yes, the pressure will increase with the heated tyre but pretty sure Michelin thought of that during design! 

The question is though - should they be different than OEM?
TIA 

Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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Dr.Shifty
I always take the bike recommendation for tyres, unless there's a good reason to do otherwise. Michelin does not know what bike you are on and there is a lot of steering geometry and weight difference between bikes, so they can't give a recommendation.

If you go too far below the bike settings the TPMS will start pinging you about a low tyre. And if you get too used to the warning light you might miss an actual puncture.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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KiwiGriff
Thanks Kim.  appreciate the response and ties in with my way of thinking also.  I really just wondered whether the local 'expert' at a fitting shop may have suggested something different to him.  I'm going to maintain as per the manual.  
Cheers, Griff
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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KiwiGriff
Set at 41 (R) and 36 (F) as per and in accordance with.  Didn't get above 47 and 42 respectively when riding four hours today as I would have expected......not too warm today but even if they were higher temps I don't believe that to be any issue whatsoever. 

One of the issues with having such a smart bike is that every little thing is detected - perhaps a problem, perhaps not!  Had an engine check light twice today though - I noticed the rear TPMS reading doesn't display.  The diagnostics in the Ride Command when I pulled over to check were that there was a delay in updating the rear TPMS data (no sh.t Sherlock), and subsequently a 'P0314: Cylinder Misfire. Misfire.   Corrective Action - Contact your Dealer'........Different topic I know but I note you replied to a previous thread re engine check lights. 

I noticed the engine check light came on after I went over a significant bump - the music stopped momentarily which drew my attention to it and then the engine check light started flashing.  Pulled over, stopped the bike, restarted and still there.  Carried on home as the bike was running fine.  Stopped the bike, restarted and it appears to have disappeared.  Am I going to be going through my entire ownership stopping and starting the bike to clear engine check lights?! :-)  Fitted with a Power Commander V, Stage 1 air filter, Stage 2 cams, true dual exhausts.  Is the misfire warning something I should be worried about?

Cheers,
Griff
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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Dr.Shifty
It sounds like you might have loose a battery connection and when you hit the bump ti gave a momentary open circuit. The bikes are well known for the battery connections, and the earth to frame connection, coming loose.

I don't have the dash panel on the Springfield, all my notifications are on a small LCD panel on the tank mounted speedo. However, the TPMS on my rear wheel started to show dashes instead of a PSI reading and the warning light would come on. A half hour later it would work again and show the PSI but the light stayed on. It behaved like that intermittently for months until I started taking photos of the proper reading showing and the warning light on. They ended up replacing the rear sensor under warranty - only a month or so before the warranty ran out.

If you don't get a PSI reading when the warning light comes on, it's probably the sensor failing. The battery in them can't be replaced so it's a new sensor needed. Some people pull them apart and replace the battery - youtube vids are out there. Some people buy a much cheaper sensor on ebay, same model but a cheaper seller.

A misfire warning can mean lots of things. One of the things to check is the knock sensor. It bolts to the rear of the front cylinder and the lead runs up under the tank. Sometimes the lead hits the motor and melts the insulation. If that shorts it registers as a fault code and the computer sees it as a timing problem and can try to make an adjustment that is not necessary.

The bike's computer is a real drama queen and can throw codes for little things. However, I have few problems, and most of the Indian riders I know are also trouble free.

I've no experience with the PC-V, and the only guy I know who had one on an Indian took it off. Something to check, however, is that all the connections they made on installation are totally, 100%, fully, water tight. These add-ons are often connected to the battery and the computer doesn't know it's there. If there is even a slight moisture or earthing problem in a connection on the PC-V power circuit, the regulator sees it as a battery drain and tries to up the charge voltage. Problems can show up as weird dash lights or no blinkers, or other things as the computer tries to shut down what it thinks is a problem area.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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KiwiGriff
Thanks Kim!  That's given me some things to check.  New battery in yesterday so I know that the battery connections are tight but it was a bit of a struggle getting the ?ECM (terminology) back on top of the battery as the PC unit is also there - wires seemed a bit tight.  It's something I can check tomorrow. Cheers Griff
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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KiwiGriff
@Dr.Shifty - thanks Kim.  Update from today - the ECM (again, not sure of terminology) wasn't seated correctly - discovered that the two posts that allow it to hinge had missed the slots they live in and it was able to bounce up and down.  Squared that away - terminals were as tight as a tight thing (however tight you wish to make that in your imagination)..... I've investigated other causes for the 'misfire' code and pretty sure that none of them are happening (specifically the one you mentioned - checked all wiring under the tank and all looks good).  I'm hopeful that it was just the control module bouncing that caused the misfire code.  I'll keep an eye on the PSI sensor - not too worried about it as I have a pretty good eye and a pressure gauge that I can keep an eye on things with!  But if the sensor is on its way out then it'll be changed at the next tyre change (perhaps about 20k away!)... Cheers, Griff
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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Kappy
The power Commander V is a pigging back thing, so connection may need to be checked, as ECU is very picking about voltage as with most modern vehicle..Interesting about the new battery mine is a 2017 RM and battery is over 3 years old.
True duel are also not stock so I would check header studs are even stock they have been stories not torqued up. I removed my exhaust to decat and discovered some time later they needed retorquing ( quite loose) as I was getting some weird stuff.
Heard from reliable expert that true duels look great, they also rob power and torque, just saying.
From the same source as PC5 is a fuel add on, the ECU may detect changes and try to make adjustments, that may conflict.
I use the PVCX that basically re flashes the ECU, the new PV3 is the updated version with a whole new bags of tricks.
As I'm on my original tyres 22,000 haven't had any issues with TPMS, they can take a while to respond and only operate after you get rolling from the 1st start .
Kappy

Growing Older is inevitable, Growing up is Optional.

BK AUS 1 68223
IMRG AU 101125

Current ride/s
2017 Indian Roadmaster-Willow Green/Ivory--Wicked Willow
Stage 3 BB 116
Freedom Racing slip on and Indian Fishtails.
Lots of Leather.
2000 ST1100 - AnaSTasia
Past rides irrelevant. except Suzuki RG500
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KiwiGriff
Thanks for the reply Kappy.  I noticed a 'sticker' under the left hand side cover that said to previous techs to not play with the ECU settings.  I'm familiar with remapping etc (I use TuneECU on my Rocket so understand the concept) but have never had a Power Commander and I thought the same thing - that perhaps settings may conflict with these aftermarket additions.  The previous owner also mentioned that he had to ensure the tech's didn't 'screw with the settings' after it had been dyno'd.  I'm doing a lot more reading on this subject (particularly the misfire code reasons - some of them are scary and sound expensive!)  Appreciate the input.  
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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Kappy
I had misfire stuff, till I re torqued my header pipes.

I have even heard stories of header studs being fingertight ex factory, so I would check all exhaust connections and also double check inlet, a an incorrectly torqued stud once it heats up can cause misfire.
Kappy

Growing Older is inevitable, Growing up is Optional.

BK AUS 1 68223
IMRG AU 101125

Current ride/s
2017 Indian Roadmaster-Willow Green/Ivory--Wicked Willow
Stage 3 BB 116
Freedom Racing slip on and Indian Fishtails.
Lots of Leather.
2000 ST1100 - AnaSTasia
Past rides irrelevant. except Suzuki RG500
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KiwiGriff
Can you give me a hint of correct torque setting for these?  I don't have a service manual and the Rider's Manual has an index entry for Fastener Torques but then says they don't tell you them! :-) 
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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Kappy
PM me an email address will try and send it too big for here.
Kappy

Growing Older is inevitable, Growing up is Optional.

BK AUS 1 68223
IMRG AU 101125

Current ride/s
2017 Indian Roadmaster-Willow Green/Ivory--Wicked Willow
Stage 3 BB 116
Freedom Racing slip on and Indian Fishtails.
Lots of Leather.
2000 ST1100 - AnaSTasia
Past rides irrelevant. except Suzuki RG500
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KiwiGriff
Thanks!  Saved in my hard drive now.  Appreciate that.  Cheers!
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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KiwiGriff
oops nope.  That's actually the equivalent of what I have already.  Page 153 of the 2020 owners manual is the same as page 129 of my 2018 version.  Just says, see the 'Service Manual' or contact your dealer.  Thanks anyway.
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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Kappy
Not sure what I sent is service or user manual.
Kappy

Growing Older is inevitable, Growing up is Optional.

BK AUS 1 68223
IMRG AU 101125

Current ride/s
2017 Indian Roadmaster-Willow Green/Ivory--Wicked Willow
Stage 3 BB 116
Freedom Racing slip on and Indian Fishtails.
Lots of Leather.
2000 ST1100 - AnaSTasia
Past rides irrelevant. except Suzuki RG500
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Kappy
PM me an email address and I'll send it to you. too big for here.
Kappy

Growing Older is inevitable, Growing up is Optional.

BK AUS 1 68223
IMRG AU 101125

Current ride/s
2017 Indian Roadmaster-Willow Green/Ivory--Wicked Willow
Stage 3 BB 116
Freedom Racing slip on and Indian Fishtails.
Lots of Leather.
2000 ST1100 - AnaSTasia
Past rides irrelevant. except Suzuki RG500
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Dr.Shifty
Here's the download site for the 2017 Service manual. It's the only one that's been floating around that I've found.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ax-eITFWeWVk1CSFhuMnFaLWM/view
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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KiwiGriff
Thanks Kim.  Appreciate that.
Patriots Defence Force MC
2018 Roadmaster, 2015 Rocket III Touring, 1981 Suzuki GS1000G
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