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V-Twin
captainrob wrote:
750/4, Kamakura, Japan - 1870's
You are older than I thought!!!  🤣😜
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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crash
captainrob wrote:
Well, it seems I have learned a bit over the years?
Here's me in a 'beanie' helmet.
I used to take my bike on the ships I was working on.
750/4, Kamakura, Japan - 1870's?



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1870's ??? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Ulysses #30673
IMRG #AU100394
Current: RoadMaster (ebony and ivory)
Highett Victoria Australia
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V-Twin
While we are on the discussion of the helmet, please check the construction material carefully.  Here is a list of construction materials:
- Thermoplastic (Avoid helmets made of this) 
- Polycarbonate (Usually found in budget helmets)
- Fiberglass (Heavy but durable)
- Aramid (Dupont kevlar or other generic versions) + Carbon Fiber (The best money can buy).

Check out this video if you want to know more about this and learn other tips on choosing the best helmet.




This video may also interest some people.

Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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captainrob
well, I wasn't going to admit to the 1970's
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crash
captainrob wrote:
well, I wasn't going to admit to the 1970's


It's ok captn, your amongst friends 😃
Ulysses #30673
IMRG #AU100394
Current: RoadMaster (ebony and ivory)
Highett Victoria Australia
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bobcat
Many states here in the US require helmets, that aside I always wear a full face helmet. I also always boots and armored leather jacket and britches 
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CHF10

crash wrote:


It's ok captn, your amongst friends 😃

Yup - I was born in the 70s! 😃

Live free or die!
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crash
CHF10 wrote:

Yup - I was born in the 70s! 😃



I was left school and working in the 70's (oh, I see your point......  whipper snapper 😃 )
Ulysses #30673
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Current: RoadMaster (ebony and ivory)
Highett Victoria Australia
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Croc
Hm, was around when the laws were brought in.  Not much input from bike riders accepted by the lawmakers, ie. you can buy a Nova helmet (pressed plastic nonsense) legally but not a safer high tech Euro model due to our helmet laws.
Have two broken collarbones due directly to stupid car drivers AND the fact I wore a full face helmet then.
Rode for a number of years without a lid, could see/hear things way better, actually went slower & didn't sweat like a badger in summer.
I don't care what anyone wears but would like the choice for myself.  Again, this is based on my experience & info I had that is probably 35 years out of date.
I'm Not Completely Useless . .
I Can Be Used As A Bad Example!

Kwinana W.A.

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Dr.Shifty
Croc wrote:
Hm, was around when the laws were brought in.  Not much input from bike riders accepted by the lawmakers, ie. you can buy a Nova helmet (pressed plastic nonsense) legally but not a safer high tech Euro model due to our helmet laws.


The approval requirements have been brought up to date a few years ago. I think all states now have the same requirements, which could be a headache in the past if you were crossing the border into a state with different sticker requirements. And I think all states recognise certain international standards so you can now buy that high tech Euro helmet.

My current helmet is two years old and has an international sticker, bought from a local bike shop.

You might need to check this out for your particular state.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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Darkhorse
Great conversation and interesting to read the differing views. My initial comments were my feelings about the matter and I completely understand the variance in views expressed on this forum which is the true value of the forum. I have had a couple of accidents in the past that have resulted in hospital stays and on both occasions the helmet saved my boofhead. I did a riding course in Brisbane and the main instructor, who was a very good rider felt that we should all have the individual right to wear what we wanted to. Full face, open face or nothing. So as they say, opinions are like arseholes in that everyone has one. Good that the forum is mature enough to allow all of us to express ours.
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crash
Darkhorse wrote:
Good that the forum is mature enough to allow all of us to express ours.


I agree, Because my preference is a full face and for reasons that are all my own, doesn't mean that I should try and influence others in what they should or should not use. 

We are all, when riding, vulnerable regardless of what we wear. 

I passed comment about people I see wearing thongs, t-shirts (sometimes) and shorts - I would not try and influence them to change their gear to what I thought suitable.

What others do is their business. 

What I do is my business.

But for the purpose of discussion - this is really interesting information.  Where I see this information being useful is if someone is sitting on the fence and are not quite sure which way to go - this information both from a technical viewpoint and from a personal viewpoint is extremely handy and may assist some in making a decision that they are comfortable with.
Ulysses #30673
IMRG #AU100394
Current: RoadMaster (ebony and ivory)
Highett Victoria Australia
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Croc
I agree with Crash & Darkhorse.  I always try & appreciate everyone's viewpoint & opinions.  If I ever state mine it is from my experience & information & in the hope of putting up a different viewpoint.
Too many people in life are biased & only allow for their own version of things to be priority.

Yep, considered, respectful discussion is the go, unless, of course, you are one of them liberal, long haired hippy types with tattoos & piercings!!!!!
(oh, and don't ride the type of bike I ride or do what I do & not wear what I wear!!!)
😉😂😱
I'm Not Completely Useless . .
I Can Be Used As A Bad Example!

Kwinana W.A.

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IMRG      #100932
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Dr.Shifty
crash wrote:
Where I see this information being useful is if someone is sitting on the fence and are not quite sure which way to go - this information both from a technical viewpoint and from a personal viewpoint is extremely handy and may assist some in making a decision that they are comfortable with.


The injury pics I put up earlier happened when I was riding a mate's bike while I was between bikes of my own. The mate, Dave, is still among my closest friends and his kids see me as part of the wider family. Dave's son bought himself a 250 cruiser Jap bike a few years ago and so we got talking about bikes, especially Dave's bike and my face. I showed him the pics.

A few months later Dave told me that his son had dropped the bike riding around a corner in the rain in Sydney commuter traffic. He scraped the bike a bit but was not hurt himself. He didn't get back on the bike and had sold it within weeks.  He told me later that my pics stayed in his head and experiencing how easy it was to drop a bike he just didn't want to go any further into biking.

He might just have easily made the decision to keep riding but to always wear helmet, gloves, kevlar jeans etc, and/or do an advanced rider education course.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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V-Twin
Dr.Shifty wrote:
He didn't get back on the bike and had sold it within weeks.  He told me later that my pics stayed in his head and experiencing how easy it was to drop a bike he just didn't want to go any further into biking.
You know we want MORE riders, not less!!  🙄 Stop scaring young riders!!  😆
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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stevenlb21
Looks like he made a decision that riding was not the safest path for him to take and should be admired for it. 

Riding of motorcycles is not for everyone, some people who ride do not have the common sense to know they should give it up for the sake of others and there own safety
Cheers......Steve
Penrith, NSW

2015 Indian Chieftain (Indian Motorcycle Red)
"TECUMSEH"
IMRG Membership No.  AU101486

Meanwhile back at the Ranch, Tonto disguised as a door gets his knob shot off !!!.

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Croc
I had a nasty prang not long into my riding bikes.  Darkness, a corner, large oil slick & high sided traffic island combined with my full face helmet
gave me less shoulder width & a really bad collarbone injury.  After I got better my mate came over one sunday to take me for a ride.
By that, I mean my bike was still unrepaired & I was going to be pillion.
He rode us a fair way out of Perth, stopped for a break & then, as we were going to head back, informed me that I was to be the rider
& he would be pillion.  Despite my objections he was adamant that this would be the only way we would be getting home.
My injuries were healed & there was no reason I couldn't, so I eventually ended up taking him as pillion on his bike (he isn't exactly a
small guy either).
At first I was going slow & real hesitant, but by the time we got to the highway via a long windy piece of road I was going great guns
(the bike in question was a 900 Duke, perfect for that sort of riding).  Got home safely, grinning like mad.
I thanked him & it was then that he told me he had planned the whole thing.  He had noticed my reticence to get back on a bike or to even start
fixing my own Duke.  He could see that I had been rattled (more like scared to heck) by the accident & giving up on bikes.

It worked, been riding for years since then, have had a few more accidents (all of which, as with the first one, not due to MY road skills, but
courtesy of our other road companions) but still going strong.
I haven't regretted it, there are many personal benefits to riding any sort of motorbike.  I often wonder how I may have gone if he hadn't
turned up that day.  (actually, I'd probably still have a job, but that's another story!)

Oh, this does have SOME sort of connection to this thread.  There WAS mention of a helmet in that monologue! ðŸ˜‰  
I'm Not Completely Useless . .
I Can Be Used As A Bad Example!

Kwinana W.A.

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IMRG      #100932
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Dan
I raced motocross as a youngster and bit the dust on a regular basis as you do but always had a fullface helmet and never had any problems, one day I wore an open face because they were a bit of a trend at the time, I face planted into the dirt , got up with blood nose, fat lips and gravel rash on my face and decided then and there that I would never wear one again, I don't even want to think of skidding my face on the bitumen.
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