Jethro63
Hi i am buying a scout only problem is build date they want to sell me 09/19 built for a new bike 9 months is too old imho 
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RoadRunner
It does seem old.  Often that's what happens when there is a stockpile in the country.  This article might help.

https://www.indianmotorcycleforum.com.au/post/when-buying-indian-motorcycles-insist-on-aposfreshapos-bikes-8157178
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Jethro63
Thanks for the reply i did read that post last week that's why I insisted that it be 2020 dealers have rung me back saying 2020 built will be here 17th July so I can wait 
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Pistol660
I bought an old stock bike and got a great deal. Are they not willing to negotiate something for you?
2018 scout
UK 
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Jethro63
Hi yeah offered me a indian leather jacket ha ha lol, i am thinking that Indian is doomed if this is the standard of dealers they have now in Australia MCA whom i am buying Scout through are known for selling motorbike accessories  not motorbikes  i am concerned i my change my mind altogether and just buy a Harley.
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Pistol660
Oh what a shame 😔 However we all have to make the right choices for ourselves 👍
2018 scout
UK 
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Jethro63
yeah that's right it is a shame as it's the best bike i have test ridden  hands down by a long way 
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Dr.Shifty
Jethro63 wrote:
Hi yeah offered me a indian leather jacket ha ha lol, i am thinking that Indian is doomed if this is the standard of dealers they have now in Australia MCA whom i am buying Scout through are known for selling motorbike accessories  not motorbikes  i am concerned i my change my mind altogether and just buy a Harley.


MCAS used to be Cassons and was bought by Motorcycle Holdings a few years ago. It's only one of their businesses.

Motorcycle Holdings also own Morgan and Whacker Harley-Davidson, Morgan and Whacker BMW, Canberra HD and Gold Coast HD, as well as other less well known dealers and other related businesses. There was talk last year of them buying Fraser Motorcycles which would give them more HD shops as well as Ducati & Honda.  That's a lot of bikes being sold by the parent company.

I'm guessing that if they are going to use MCAS to sell bikes as well as accessories then they will get it into shape to do that with people who know what they are doing. There was a lot of dissatisfaction expressed here on the forum when it first became known, but the parent company has experience in bike dealerships around the country.

Ironically, they probably sell more HD bikes through their several outlets than they will ever sell Indians.
Cheers, Kim.

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Jethro63
If the service i received is the company standard i would be worried no matter how big parent company is if your representative is selling bikes built 10 months ago as new stock without  a large discount as every other brand of motorcycle does (HD run out sale springs to mind) like I have said a leather jacket won't cut it i think it's dishonest to sell a bike built 10 months ago as new i know all   the tricks used by salespeople  they were all used on me by MCA salespeople if i am paying full price i want a new bike i realise there have been problems with covid ect ect but not my problem Head of sales rang me several times saying he would have to pay freight on a 2020 model i said isn't that why I pay $795 ? I can buy a HD softail built 02/20 complied 05/20  with a $1000 discount of retail i think Indian needs to pick who is selling their bikes a bit better in the long term Indian sold 803 bikes last year is that sustainable for the long run ? And ATV sales are down 11 % is that not going to affect Polaris? Any way see what happens i predict slippery dealer won't come up with a 2020 bike by the date promised i will end up buying a heavy HD cheers 

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damienpearse
Jethro63 wrote:
Hi yeah offered me a indian leather jacket ha ha lol, i am thinking that Indian is doomed if this is the standard of dealers they have now in Australia MCA whom i am buying Scout through are known for selling motorbike accessories  not motorbikes  i am concerned i my change my mind altogether and just buy a Harley.

Indian were originally pushbikes made by Hendee, BMW started off as an aircraft engine manufacturer.
Many company evolved into something else and MCA might be doing just that. 

Interesting email overnight from Indian Motorcycle Riders, it looks like they're starting to get more involved with riders, now that some of the workload has been passed on to MCA. 
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srd0060
Jethro63 wrote:
If the service i received is the company standard i would be worried no matter how big parent company is if your representative is selling bikes built 10 months ago as new stock without  a large discount as every other brand of motorcycle does (HD run out sale springs to mind) like I have said a leather jacket won't cut it i think it's dishonest to sell a bike built 10 months ago as new i know all   the tricks used by salespeople  they were all used on me by MCA salespeople if i am paying full price i want a new bike i realise there have been problems with covid ect ect but not my problem Head of sales rang me several times saying he would have to pay freight on a 2020 model i said isn't that why I pay $795 ? I can buy a HD softail built 02/20 complied 05/20  with a $1000 discount of retail i think Indian needs to pick who is selling their bikes a bit better in the long term Indian sold 803 bikes last year is that sustainable for the long run ? And ATV sales are down 11 % is that not going to affect Polaris? Any way see what happens i predict slippery dealer won't come up with a 2020 bike by the date promised i will end up buying a heavy HD cheers 

its the right time of the year to buy Sales are down and people are not spending. If you want a Indian than push the point and shop around.
2018 Scout, Thunder black, Beach bars, DART screen Bobber Rims, Stage 1.
IMRG  AU 101571
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Phil
Hey Jethro just as a side note we tend to find the year of the bike runs a very long second place as opposed to the care and condition if u are worried about resale value. Colour, options and how unique it might be means a lot more important and we up in Tamworth would gladly stock a much cooler looking 19 model than a more standard looking 2020 especially if the only differences are cosmetic which they would be with most current models. My suggestion is to just buy what grabs your fancy and gets you the best deal and don’t worry about the year so much.
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Jethro63
Hi Phil yeah i just wanted a 2020 im buying the poverty pack black but with stage 1 slip on mufflers and air cleaner in the future is keyless fob and self canceling indicators the Dealer is shipping a 2020 from Melbourne to Sydney should be delivered to me not next week but the week after, so only had to wait a few weeks Indian dealers are known for unloading old stock onto the people who don't care or understand the difference in price several people have contacted me telling me stories going back to 2015 and dealers having to refund $1500 to customers, i bought a Honda cbr500ra in 2014 it was built 3 months before i bought it my Harley Davidson was last year's model but i got a large discount of $1500 off just because they can't sell old stock  doesn't   mean the should sell a 10 month old bike as new its dishonest i have sent email telling them so cheers Jeff 
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Phil
But if its never been registered it is still classed a new machine whether it’s a bike a car or a truck. In a perfect world all 19 models would have been long gone but that’s never going to be the case. In my experience you will usually get a better packaged deal on a 19 than a 20 anyway all for something that in the long run will
mean stuff all anyway. As long as you are made aware it’s a 19 model and given the option I don’t see the issue especially If there is no difference in the models.
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Jethro63
Ahh but there is a difference between 19 and 20 model quite a few front rotor master cylinder brake line but apart from that, for resale value insurance would pay out on a 2019 market value  not 2020 being as it was a 09/19 bike it would have missed the brake upgrades build date does matter in the long term always better to have latest bike available Indian Dealers won't discount until factory rebates them unless it's a demo and you never buy a demo cause they have been thrashed from day one like I said if your paying full price get a new bike at least one made the same year you buy it not some old stock sitting in the warehouse gathering dust 
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