Scout LE MKIII
i appreciate that for many on this forum this is not likely a note worthy topic but for someone who is still gaining experience, it was an interesting moment. 

I guess to start its worth stating that I have only been riding for around 18 months, and only about 6 of those on the Scout. Also, it is not a daily commute but more of a weekend activity. So yeah my experience is still growing. 

Anyway, today I was coming around a roundabout and scrapped the right peg - first time I have done this.  What was really interesting though were the thoughts that quickly passed through ones mind.

1) what the heck was that ..
2) crap I think I scrapped a peg ..
3) Kewl I actually scrapped a peg ..
4) crap I damaged my Scout .. lol

Anyway, and like I said, I'm sure this is not an unfamiliar situation for many riders on this forum,  but I hope it is actually a sign that my confidence and ability on the bike is improving given I didn't really think anything was different until the peg actually scrapped on the road. 

Cheers,
Scout LE MKIII

Edited to correct spelling. 
Townsville QLD
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V-Twin
Hey Scout, I am glad you were alright.  I was little worried when I read you title.  It is great that you are leaning the bike over.  Some roundabouts are not flat.  Some have mid-turn bump as well.  However, if this is your local roundabout that you normally go through and this was your first, good for you.  Only thing I will say is that, make sure your tyres are warmed up before leaning hard.  Also, many here are not a fan of OEM Kenda tyres.  Keep on enjoying riding and stay safe.
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Melbourne, Victoria
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Scout LE MKIII
Thanks V-Twin. 

Yeah it is a roundabout that I would use almost every time I take the bike out. 

And I have read here (and in other forums) the concerns that many riders have with the OEM Kenda tyres. Personally I haven't had an issue yet but that may be to the fact that I am not as aggressive on the bike as others - not yet anyway 😀  - So I am conscious of this and will look to change the tyres sooner than later.
Interestingly enough I have only recently read that the 2018 Scouts (69, 60 & bobber) will come with Pirellis Night Dragons, which one could conclude gives even more merit to the concerns raised by the many. 

Cheers,
Townsville QLD
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V-Twin
Scout LE MKIII wrote:
2018 Scouts (69, 60 & bobber) will come with Pirellis Night Dragons...
That's a great news for 2018 Scout/Bobber buyers.  Night Dragons are well reviewed.  No doubt these tyres would have cost more than Kenda tyres to Polaris... good for you Indian for taking a step to improve the quality and safety of our bikes!  👍

https://www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-rear-tires
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Melbourne, Victoria
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crash
Hi Scout LE MkIII.

I am with you, it scares the sh!t out of you the first time.  Things go through your head like - what if the peg hit a bump or a bit of kerb?  what if the peg didn't fold like its supposed to?  how close was I to falling off?

You pull the bike over, stop the bike, inspect the damage, realise that there is a bit of a wear plate there and then you go - awesome - I can do it.

My advice is that this is good but with confidence comes complacency.  Be on your guard for the last one - that one can hurt - nothing wrong with confidence though [biggrin]
Ulysses #30673
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Smiley
Good advice, thanks Crash.
Scout, after the first scrape, I started challenging myself to keep the scrape going through the corner, as demonstrated in 'Twist of the wrist'.
I still feel the change to DS suspension has helped instil more confidence in riding my Scout. Still have the Kendas but I don't feel I push them too hard!
2016 Scout (red) Canberra, ACT
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DrZ
Scout LE MKIII wrote:
i appreciate that for many on this forum this is not likely a note worthy topic but for someone who is still gaining experience, it was an interesting moment. 

I guess to start its worth stating that I have only been riding for around 18 months, and only about 6 of those on the Scout. Also, it is not a daily commute but more of a weekend activity. So yeah my experience is still growing. 

Anyway, today I was coming around a roundabout and scrapped the right peg - first time I have done this.  What was really interesting though were the thoughts that quickly passed through ones mind.

1) what the heck was that ..
2) crap I think I scrapped a peg ..
3) Kewl I actually scrapped a peg ..
4) crap I damaged my Scout .. lol

Anyway, and like I said, I'm sure this is not an unfamiliar situation for many riders on this forum,  but I hope it is actually a sign that my confidence and ability on the bike is improving given I didn't really think anything was different until the peg actually scrapped on the road. 

Cheers,
Scout LE MKIII

Edited to correct spelling. 


While gaining experience riding it is always good to be a bit paranoid concerning scraping anything or any noise you have not heard previously.  This is what teaches you to stay alive on two wheels.  You need to develop certain habits.  Habits like checking your bike completely prior to riding... checking it out after a ride.  This gives you the ability to recognize anything that has changed.  Tire appearance and pressure need to be checked when you want to ride.  Checking oil level and looking for any leaks.  Scraping a peg is normal but until you learn your limits.... paranoia is a good attitude.

Kendra tires.  UGH!!!  I test drove a Scout when they first came out.  When I put her into a heavy lean, I could feel the back wheel start to break loose a bit.  Not a comfortable feeling even after riding for as many years as I have.  I gave her too much throttle at one stop sign and broke loose the back tire.  While it was fun spinning the tire, it told me those tires were not adequate for that scoot.

Continue learning because you never REALLY master riding a bike, you only get better over time.

Ride safe and sane my friend.
Bike History
2015 Indian Roadmaster , 2014 Indian Chieftain, 2005 Honda Goldwing GL1800, 1999 HD Road King Classic, 1994 HD Fatboy, 1986 HD  Heritage Softail, 1978 HD ElectraGlide, 1972 HD SuperGlide, 1969 HD XLCH Sportster, 1945 HD WLA,  1963 Honda 305 Dream.
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CHF10
Congratulations! Definitely take the advice of steep leans only once warms up. My tail skidded out towards the outside gutter of a round about my first day on my Yamaha V-Star XVS 1100A Classic back in the day. My first motorbike and I was on my L's. Then it bit and nearly high sided me! On a cruiser! Ok, so how I remember it is probably a LOT worse than how it actually happened but it puckered my up tightly that's for sure.

My first scrape on my Chieftain sounded wrong. Not like it was a scrape of the floor board but that it was a scrape of the exhaust tailfin! Came round the left hand corner heading home to my place for the first time. I stopped immediately to check it out. It was the floorboard. I knew the exhaust was way to high. I mean I could drop the bike and the exhaust would be fine, but just the weird noise it made caused my brain to think that. Didn't feel it in my floorboard either.

Depending on what you're used to riding, you'll scrape all the time once you get used to these bikes. Don't consider it damage, consider it "bad ass" lol.They don't have much lean angle. Every right turn in a roundabout for sure as they're always higher in the centre for drainage.

Actually when I'm back on the bike, I want to spend a half to a full day in a car park practising leaning and bike control etc. Would also be nice to know what the ABS feels like. If anyone else is keen.

Damn it! Now I want to ride SO bad! You have no idea how tempting it was just to ride around my estate on the weekend... But I refrained. No insurance if anything happens is baaaaaad.
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V-Twin
Kristopher wrote:
Would also be nice to know what the ABS feels like...
It is a good idea for anyone to practice and refine their skills.  Re: ABS - about six months ago, I was making a right hand turn at an intersection at a reasonable speed.  I looked to my left to make sure no one was coming through the red light... when I looked back to my right again, a cyclist was coming from the opposite direction, crossing at the pedestrian crossing and into my path.  I applied the brakes but I was little too firm on the rear brake on my Vintage and it locked up momentarily, that kicked my back out as I was leaning into the corner.  I am a huge fan of ABS but our Indians don't have ABS that takes lean angle into consideration and modulate braking force (like the one on Ducati) so keep that in mind.  

Also, if you do practice emergency braking, you may notice it yourself but our Nissin branded ABS does not 'pulse' as rapidly (not compared with Brambo ABS on M8 Harleys)... which I took to mean that our ABS may take a split second longer to detect lockup and release... which can make a difference in some circumstances.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Scout LE MKIII
Thanks for all of the advice and feedback guys - much appreciated. 
@Smiley I have actually read the book Twist of the Wrist II and also watched the 'movie' (YouTube clip.)
Townsville QLD
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crash
Scout LE MKIII wrote:
i appreciate that for many on this forum this is not likely a note worthy topic but for someone who is still gaining experience, it was an interesting moment. 


More fitting than a discussion about leprechauns - you just never know what's going to pop up [biggrin]

Everyone has different experiences - for example, someone told me about counter steering a few years ago. So I watched the video and as I was watching it I went "yeh, so - that's normal isn't it?" - I just didn't know they had a name for it - but I learned something that day (they had a name for it). 
The point that I am making is that someone out there may not know or the terminology may be different but it doesn't mean it is any less relevant.  Sometimes it even turns on a light bulb with others and then they share their moments as well.  You could say it's like free therapy [biggrin] (now, tell me, how did you feel about that?).  Put it up regardless of how "trivial" it sounds - to some it will be useful information.  In a community with a broad range of skills in a broad range of fields - someone will always learn something.

There is always someone has done it and there is always someone that hasn't.  The person(s) that have done it before share their experience - highlighting that you are not the only one - and the person(s) that have not done it before learn (hopefully). [biggrin] 
Ulysses #30673
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Current: RoadMaster (ebony and ivory)
Highett Victoria Australia
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CHF10
Some people still ride and don't understand counter steering. I thought it was something that would have to come naturally on a bike. I.e. you don't turn the handlebars to the direction you want to turn, you push the hand (left or right) in the direction you want to turn... This guy, for example, didn't understand counter steering. When he sees the truck he pulls with his right hand while trying to lean further which causes him to be fighting with physics. He keeps trying to pull with his right hand. The rest is history.


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Eotatavo
Scout LE MKIII wrote:

2) crap I think I scrapped a peg ..
3) Kewl I actually scrapped a peg ..

Edited to correct spelling. 


LOL... so the peg was "scrapped"? Couldn't it be repaired? How much did a new one cost? Sorry, I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here [rofl][confused]
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Dr.Shifty
That first peg-scrape is a bit of an initiation ceremony - a bit scary but an elevation of status etc. [smile]

The Scout pegs, being rubber wrapped, have a distinct feel which is quite different from the metal pegs of my previous bikes. You'll get used to it and learn to anticipate it so you can hold the corner - but take note of what people have said about the Kenda tyres (I've had the rear let go on wet city roads).

I put floorboards on the Scout for touring at one point but they scraped so much sooner than the pegs that I took them off.
Cheers, Kim.

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CHF10
Actually a point of realisation for me recently was that the 111 models don't have scrape pads on them. Even the billet optional ones!!! So any scraping is actually damaging your floorboards. Just food for thought.
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