BarryM
Hi V-Twin, Thank you so much for your good input, .... My preference is the Indian by a big margin. I have been checking out Indian since last December. Then I recently joined this forum to get first hand real experience.

(Edited by Admin) ...If he feels good about attacking a fellow with similar interests, I doubt I'd get a fair comment to my questions?

Anyway, I also thank you on the heads up on the Harley problem, I certainly do take notice on your advice.
I'm really just trying to sort the truth from the emotion. As I said, I much prefer the Indian but I do have concerns which were raised from posts on this forum. After sales service and support is a major buying point.

If there is trouble in both camps, I may just wait till the dust settles. In the end, ... I just want trouble free riding enjoyment with a good bunch of friends.

I look forward to catching up on the road.

Kind Regards, .... Barry M.
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V-Twin
BarryM wrote:
Anyway, I also thank you on the heads up on the Harley problem, I certainly do take notice on your advice.
No worries.  We are all better off if we can share and learn from one another.  Having said that, please don't think anything I say is an 'advice'.  Just an opinion.

BarryM wrote:
I'm really just trying to sort the truth from the emotion. As I said, I much prefer the Indian but I do have concerns which were raised from posts on this forum. After sales service and support is a major buying point.
One other thing I will say is that statistically speaking, people with issues will post more comments here, myself included.  There are hundreds of Indian riders out there with no major issues.  Meaning, happy to have owned an Indian and never looked back.  Also, Indian motorcycles are improving with every model year incrementally (as far as I know).  Although I express my concerned about the reduction in component quality.

I guess all I am saying is that, don't let all the negative posts discourage you too much.  Be aware that some people had poor experience, but there are also many who are happy with their Indian ownership.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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BigTone
BarryS.
I have had 3 different HDs over the years and bought an Indian RM in 2015. The bike is far superior to any Harley I have ridden or owned. The handling and comfort are better and they look better in my opinion. I'm not a brand snob by any means and I would buy a HD if I felt my bike or my dealer was in some way not pleasing me. In not too fussed about Polaris or HD, just the quality of the ride and performance of my service centre.
Anyhow my two cents.
Cheers.
Cheers,
Tony
St. Kilda  Victoria
IMRG: 20380071
Current Ride: 2020 Dark Horse Challenger 
Previous Ride: 2015 Roadmaster
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BarryM
Thanks again V-Twin and Tony.

I should know better, .... Only complaints get the press mileage.

I've now looked at the Milwaukee 8 issues, so again thanks again V-Twin.

It was the Indian Scout that got my attention in the first place, so common sense has allowed me to return to original priority.

A good friend of mine tells me his son is the manager of Canberra Motorcycles (They carry a number of brands) so I expect that I will be able to ask some straight questions and perhaps quash any concerns?

Kind Regards ... Barry M.
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CHF10
BigTone says it perfectly! Couldn't agree more!
Live free or die!
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BarryM
Good Morning Tony.
Julie and I are heading to India, .."Is that the home of Indians?"  Kidding aside. Yes we are off to go over Indian Motorcycles in detail.
I will be asking the dealer what he will do if Polaris play their indifference card over an issue?

My plan until last night was to purchase 2, however, although Julie rode bikes on their farm in NZ 25 years ago; .. No MC Licence therefore I doubt the Scout qualifies. Anyway, no point in guessing, ... I'll just go and gather the facts.
Enjoy a rewarding day.
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BigTone
G'day Barry
Take a bike for the weekend and test it out on a long ride. It's a great way to get the "feel" of the Indians. By the way, it is a free option at the dealers.
No Scout doesn't qualify for L plates, however HD have a LAMS model that is made in India...so that is close 😁😁😁😗
Cheers,
Tony
St. Kilda  Victoria
IMRG: 20380071
Current Ride: 2020 Dark Horse Challenger 
Previous Ride: 2015 Roadmaster
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BarryM
Thanks Tony, Taking one for a weekend or a couple of days during the week would be an excellent option. 
I went into the Indian dealer today and asked about warranties/Polaris. Firstly, he said they are not owned by Polaris as some of the dealerships are. The also have Honda, Yamaha, Royal Enfield, Ducati, Suzuki, KTM as well as Skidoo and all the Polaris products. He said that they have repeat customers, some of which go back 3 decades plus.  They would not let a genuine warranty issue hurt their reputation! GOOD!

So it seems likely my choice will be a Black Scout with Burgundy colour seat. Perhaps pipes or slip-on's from the start? I haven't seen one in Indian Red yet?

As Indian don't currently have LAMS we again took your advice and wondered around the corner to HD and Julie sat on the HD Street 500. She liked this bike, . she also had a look at the Honda LAMS bike, that was nice too, however, I think the HD will be a better investment value retention wise?  Who knows?

We spent a few hours checking out helmets, boots, jackets pants and all the gear for a safe ride.  Plus back and fourth to the Cafe!
The last helmet I bought was an expensive TIG for welding, huge difference to the run of the mill units. Same for Bike Helmets I expect. So we were also looking at whats available these days.  My last helmet was a Shoei and in the late 80's I think it was about $600.
There is so much to chose from now, ..... More homework then back to the shop to get the best fit and function!

I liked the HD Breakout and I have always had a soft spot for the HD Fatboy. I have no doubt that the Scout is the better option as it has much less down-side. Nothing is perfect, ... mind you, my 13 year old daughter will argue the case!  LOL

I'm driving down to Melbourne next Tuesday in a friends newly restored MG-R V8. He is off to Tasmania to a car show, .. I get off at Melbourne and catch a flight back to Canberra. If it's not too out of the way, I may get to visit Indian Melbourne. I haven't booked the flight yet, ... may stay overnight?

Cheers for now Tony, .... Barry M.
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V-Twin
Firstly, this conversation had to be separated from the nacelle thread for obvious reasons.

BarryM wrote:
he said they are not owned by Polaris as some of the dealerships are. The also have Honda, Yamaha, Royal Enfield, Ducati, Suzuki, KTM as well as Skidoo and all the Polaris products. He said that they have repeat customers, some of which go back 3 decades plus.  They would not let a genuine warranty issue hurt their reputation! GOOD!
Only the Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne and Perth Dealerships are owned by Polaris.  Please do encourage your dealer to join us on the forum.

BarryM wrote:
So it seems likely my choice will be a Black Scout with Burgundy colour seat. Perhaps pipes or slip-on's from the start? I haven't seen one in Indian Red yet?
Have you seen the Scout Bobber?

BarryM wrote:
As Indian don't currently have LAMS we again took your advice and wondered around the corner to HD and Julie sat on the HD Street 500. She liked this bike, . she also had a look at the Honda LAMS bike, that was nice too...
If I may make a comment... most people don’t own LAMS bike for too long and many have not clocked up too many kms.  You might lose less value if you bought a pre-loved.  There should be plenty of Street 500s on BikeSales.  I can see it now Barry... by the time your Mrs is ready to get a bigger bike, you hand her your Scout and you buy a Chieftain or something... very clever!  🤣 

BarryM wrote:
My last helmet was a Shoei and in the late 80's I think it was about $600.
Shoei still starts from about that price.  

BarryM wrote:
I liked the HD Breakout and I have always had a soft spot for the HD Fatboy.
The two bikes I like from HD.  I have heard that Breakout doesn’t corner as well due to longer rake.  Fatboy corners better than you would think for a bike with car tyres.  I must admit, I did look at 2018 Fatboy online a few times.  However, I prefer a bike with hard cases now.  Both Fatboy and Breakout looks wrong with any style of bags, and I don't want to ride with messenger bags anymore.  

BarryM wrote:
If it's not too out of the way, I may get to visit Indian Melbourne. I haven't booked the flight yet, ... may stay overnight?
If you are definite, let us know... if we can meet up, we will.  If the date works out, you might be able to organise a loan bike in Melbourne for a day, and we can go for a spin.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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BigTone
Nice Barry. What V says about a pre owned LAMS bike makes a lot of sense.
Maybe catch up for a ride when you are in Melbourne 
Cheers,
Tony
St. Kilda  Victoria
IMRG: 20380071
Current Ride: 2020 Dark Horse Challenger 
Previous Ride: 2015 Roadmaster
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rusty
Barry ,
Great you have done research I did lots too .  This is going too be expensive . I hadn,t even bought a different car in 25 years . Well with motorcycles been since mid 80s since ive owned one  I'm a real keeper  . Follow your heart you and wife . Don't matter what you buy just happy with it  . 🙂

Russell
No one makes it out alive .
Brisbane Qld
Red Bobber only two in Brisbane hope it stays that way .ha

 

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CHF10

You'll get a great used Yamaha V-Star LAMS bike for next to nothing. Couple of thousand. You almost can't lose money on them.

And V, tell this guy his bike looks wrong! 😋

[438279-terminator-2-harley-fat-boy]

Live free or die!
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V-Twin
CHF10 wrote:
And V, tell this guy his bike looks wrong! 😋
I will!  Tell him to pop over.  😄   Appearance and functionality we prefer are personal and there is no right or wrong.  My Evo Fatboy looked pretty much like that with black leather bags.  The thing is, after my US trip, I am liking hard bags more (better security) and you can't forget to lock them.  How many times I've taken off and I had three leather straps flapping in the wind and the saddlebag lid lifting up... 😝

Anyway, where was I going with that?  Oh yes... now that Harley updated Fatboy to a more modern look, none of the bags look right in my opinion.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Dr.Shifty
I thought Arnie was suddenly very fat when I saw that pic. Then I realised that what I thought was his shirt was the girl's backpack. 😮😮
Cheers, Kim.

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V-Twin
Dr.Shifty wrote:
the girl's backpack. 😮😮
😳 Don't make me say it!!  ...that kid is 'he'!  🙄
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Dr.Shifty
V-Twin wrote:
😳 Don't make me say it!!  ...that kid is 'he'!  🙄


See how confused I got when I saw a fat Arnie? 😐
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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Mac1
In Terminator 3 he rides a gilroy indian better choice
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