Gazzaroadmaster
I just bought a second hand High Flow Indian Air filter assembly and after purchase realised that it could be complicated to get tuning done as the Calibration cards are set at one use.
I rang a dealer and they said it would cost about $220 for the Calibration card.

Can anyone advise me the best course of tuning action now that I have fitted the unit?

Is there any issue with running the bike with the new air filter without tuning?

I have started and run the bike and there are no apparent running issues.

Can the dealer tune to the new system?
Should I buy a Powervision unit just for this tune.
Do I just purchase the Calibration card and have it updated.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
GW
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Dr.Shifty
There won't be too much of a problem running the bike if this is the only mod. Once you add pipes then the fueling can get too lean. It also works the same with pipes only but no hiflow filter.

The Indian tunes are set to match US pollution standards and will not get the best performance from the motor. A dealer tunes the bike by connecting it to their computer and flashing with a tune from head office, depending on what mods the bike has - air filter, pipes, cams etc. Each flash is a one-time thing. The calibration card is merely a voucher that you purchase to show you've paid for the flash.

The best way to proceed is with a PV3 through Fuel Moto as they offer continuing tune updates if you buy the unit through them and later add another mod. It's more expensive but does a lot more.

If you take the bike to a dyno tuner, they will have to add a tuning device of some kind into the price. Many still use Power Commanders but there is a move to PV3 as it offers a lot more adjustability.

There are advantages of the PV3 for other things apart from fueling. A significant one is that you get to choose how sensitive the throttle response is, from lazy to aggressive. My Springfield took a lot of twist to get going with the stock tune. I've adjusted it so it gets into action with much less twist. You can also spend time logging the bike's performance and fine tuning it to get it running more smoothly than with a stock tune.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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V-Twin
Dr.Shifty wrote:
There won't be too much of a problem running the bike if this is the only mod. Once you add pipes then the fueling can get too lean. It also works the same with pipes only but no hiflow filter.
I am in agreement with Shifty.  If you just do the air cleaner (AC) or the slip-on pipes, you can get away with the original factory tune.  The tune can cope with the variation in the air flow.  If you did both or did anything else to your engine, the original tune will be insufficient.
Let's be kind to one another.
Melbourne, Victoria
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stevenlb21
I'm of the opinion that there is a sufficient enough tune in the standard tune to accommodate a hi flow air cleaner and stage one pipes without getting it a flashed and thats straight from an Indian Service manager, things start to get different  when you throw a de cat into the mix.

On a side note, Dr Shifty that decatted pipe we swapped is fantastic thank champ.
Cheers......Steve
Penrith, NSW

2015 Indian Chieftain (Indian Motorcycle Red)
"TECUMSEH"
IMRG Membership No.  AU101486

Meanwhile back at the Ranch, Tonto disguised as a door gets his knob shot off !!!.

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stevenlb21
Gazzaroadmaster what type of air cleaner did you get, Indian sell a round one and a oval type air cleaner, i have a brand new un used flash card for the round type hi flow air cleaner
Cheers......Steve
Penrith, NSW

2015 Indian Chieftain (Indian Motorcycle Red)
"TECUMSEH"
IMRG Membership No.  AU101486

Meanwhile back at the Ranch, Tonto disguised as a door gets his knob shot off !!!.

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Dr.Shifty
stevenlb21 wrote:

On a side note, Dr Shifty that decatted pipe we swapped is fantastic thank champ.


I'm glad you like the attack dog bark, it was to snarly for me. 🙂

But I thought you traded the bike for a Challenger. Perhaps I've mixed up a forum post somewhere with another member.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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Gazzaroadmaster
stevenlb21 wrote:
Gazzaroadmaster what type of air cleaner did you get, Indian sell a round one and a oval type air cleaner, i have a brand new un used flash card for the round type hi flow air cleaner


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Hi Steve, attached is a picture of the round Air Filter I have fitted. So far it works great and I haven't had a chance to really try it out for performance. In my initial test rides after fitting everything seemed fine, and there were no negatives. I spoke with Rick at American Motorcycles and he was very helpful also with similar information to others that have replied to my inquiry. I am very interested in your flash card as I really don't have plans in modifying the bike more than I have already done. I will add my email address if you would like to communicate with me to work something out for your calibration card.   garyw1@bigpond.com   thanks everyone for your input.
GW
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