Croc
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Dang!  This looks exactly like my Chief, maybe a different year (didn't check the serial numbers) but what the heck????  I've had mine at cruise control doing 160kph in the past & shudder to think.....
From the write up the rider was going around a corner!  Not involved in an accident!
Mechanic mate of mine had already seen this & said it has happened to a new Triumph also
but the back of the frame broke.  In that case it was a two-up situation but, again, NOT an accident.

Anybody else seen this or know more about it??  Got me a tad perturbed!
I'm Not Completely Useless . .
I Can Be Used As A Bad Example!

Kwinana W.A.

Ulysses   #48275
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Bigeee64
Holy smokes, is that an example of metal fatigue? that would have to warrant an urgent recall on all those models/year one would think 

Ian
Gold Coast
IRMG #200612

proud owner of a
2020 Roadmaster &
2007 Ducati Sports Classic

 

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faceonahead
Have a good look at this image, no damage anywhere except the obvious.  Look at how is strapped in.  I'm going to go with the 2nd theroy bouncing around out there and that is the dude ratchet strapped the bike so tight in the location shown that the bike snapped after a few hundred miles on the trailer..... Of this was legit and shown to Polaris we all would have been given a stop riding advice globally
2020 Challenger Dark Horse, stage 1 pipes and air and a stack of minor mostly cosmetic mods
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Pacman
It is bogus Croc, you can breathe easy!!  This is an old picture that was reposted recently in some of the Facebook pages we follow.  Apparently it was on that trailer and he braked suddenly/had an accident with the towing vehicle and the bike went forward into the front rail and broke the frame.  Apparently it was originally posted as a freak frame failure by some Indian haters a few years back, but is not correct.
Cheers, Peter

Perth W.A.

2018 Roadmaster
IMRG # 101978
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Kriss
This has been mentioned on other forums, it would appear it’s been involved in a front end accident And was posted as a frame failure,
”fake news”
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Dr.Shifty
There's a post on the international forum recently about this bike. Somebody said he was in a different bike shop, told the sales guy he had an Indian, and the sales buy whipped out these photos to disparage the brand.

Somebody on the forum did a VIN check and found it listed as an accident ( I think in NZ) from ages ago and not an indicator of poor design. It's one of those things that people like to post up for the shock value.

On the other forum I posted up a bunch of similar photos from BMW and KTM who had some trouble with cast parts for a while. Beemers used to break their fork legs and KTM broke main frame parts. I've ever heard anybody claiming those faults as a continuing feature of either brand. It turned out that BMW had contracted another European company to supply cast fork legs and that company got them done on the cheap in China. Once BMW found out they fixed that up immediately.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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crash
for my two bobs worth. 
If the bike was going around a corner and the front wheel dropped off (as suggested), I would suspect that the bike would have gone down pretty hard and there would have been some obvious crash damage even if it was not involved in an accident (lord knows, if you drop it off the sidestand you have more damage than we are seeing here).  The bike looks too clean and unmarked to have been in such a scenario. 

It seem much more probably that the incident occurred on the back of a vehicle.  I kind of hoping that the tying of the bike down too hard didn't produce this type of result considering that the shocks should have taken up any bounce / slack (unless it was super compressed).  But the thought that the towing vehicle was in a bingle and the straps were too tight seem much more likely to me.  I am tipping that its going to take a fair amount of force to shear the frame like that.  If the bike were tied down to within an inch of it's life, and there were other forces applied to it then it would be pretty fair to say that something has to give and that would be the one place where there is the least amount of metal.  Having said all that, it would always be wise to do a physical examination of this area periodically just to be sure that there is no oxidization or cracks appearing (by periodically I am suggesting once a year or so - depending on your level of paranoia 🙂 )

So, how should you tie down a bike (that's not broken)?  - this is my opinion only and I am sure that others will have theirs.
You should only tie down a bike using the front forks.  They should be equal tension and fixed to the side of the bike.  Try not to use the handlebars as a securing point (they are designed to bend under extreme pressure), use the triple tree as the securing point - this is the strongest point on the front end.
A front wheel block should be in place (but if this is not available strap the wheel to the deck) to ensure you don't get movement either forward or backward.
You should only pin the back end down to prevent sideways movement and not too tightly.  This is just to stop the backend from lifting in the event that the tow vehicle has a sudden stop.  It also prevents the back end from bouncing around on rough roads.
Check your straps regularly to make sure that the tension is sufficient - tie downs sometimes slip.

Of course the best course of action is not to tow the thing but ride it 🙂  but sometimes it is unavoidable.
Ulysses #30673
IMRG #AU100394
Current: RoadMaster (ebony and ivory)
Highett Victoria Australia
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Croc
Phweew.  I love this forum, you always have someone who knows an answer.  I did look at the damage in the photos & figured it must have been
an on the trailer mishap but even so, looked a tad worrying.  (mind you, what the heck would you use to strap a bike THAT tight? Or even want to?)
I reckoned there would be people who had seen it before & knew the exact story behind the pictures.  Goodonya guys!

Also, it was passed to me by a Harley rider! hahaha The lengths they will go to.....

As always, advice from Crash about NOT crashing is welcome.    ðŸ˜‰ðŸ‘

(and no, I didn't check my bike for cracks after receiving the photos, I have a bit more faith in the bike than that!)
I'm Not Completely Useless . .
I Can Be Used As A Bad Example!

Kwinana W.A.

Ulysses   #48275
IMRG      #100932
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Biggles
Pac-Man is right. It’s the result of an accident. The forks were tied down pretty rigid so all the force from the accident were concentrated on the steering head. There is also a black one with the same damage. It ran off the road and went head on into a deep drain on the side of the road.  Phil Black, Harley owner, got really upset when I mentioned this told me to f$@ck up and die. Right before he blocked me. Sometimes the trash just takes itself out. Lol
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