V-Twin
Thinking of buying a new Indian Motorcycle?

Great! Make sure you request a 'fresh' bike from your dealer. Generally speaking, Polaris wants to sell you their oldest stock first. I’ve picked up my 2016 Vintage (Jan 2016 build / March 2016 compliance) in April 2016 because I asked for it. Why?

I learned this the hard way. When I bought my 2015 Vintage in April 2015, it was built in July 2014!!!  That’s 10 months old!!  How that can be called 2015 model, I'm not sure. 😏  

You might be thinking... 'I don't care if my bike is 3 months old or 10 months old.' Well, you should. Polaris, like all good manufacturers, improve components (we hope), improve processes, suppliers change over time and it does not coincide with the new model year. So it makes sense that the latest (fresh) bikes generally have the most amount of refinement built in to them.

This is not always the case... tan soft saddle bags/seats seem to be getting 'cheap' as time goes on.  The oil cooler disappeared after 2015 model year on Chiefs.  The weld marks are visible now on frames just in front of the seat... aside from these things, mechanically speaking, components have been revised and changed.

The standard camshafts have been revised between 2015 and 2016. The drive belt pulley design changed to eliminate squeaky noise in 2016. There are dozens of refinements between 2014 to 2015 models, and just as many going to 2016. No doubt 2017 will bring even more refinements.

You should expect the build date to be about 3 to 4 months prior to the delivery date, depending on the colour. If the colour is carried over colour from the previous model year, pay extra attention to your bike’s build date. Think about it! If you want a solid Indian Red bike and if Polaris warehouse has stacks of that colour bike, why would they order more from the States? So, that is another reason why you want to buy the 'new model year colour' bike.

Insist on a fresh bike. 😎🏍
Melbourne, Victoria
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Tezza
I wish I had seen this before I bought mine. Build date 4/16 and compliance 6/17.
I was going to buy a 2017 model but the run-out deal was too hard to knock back.
It's the same with cars too I suppose.

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2016 Indian Scout
2013 Boulevard C50T
Penrith, NSW
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CHF10
I bought a 2016 Chieftain. It was built in December 2015. I don't care.
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V-Twin
Tezza wrote:
I wish I had seen this before I bought mine. Build date 4/16 and compliance 6/17.
[eek] 14 months old!!  Was your bike sold to you as Model Year (MY) 2016 or MY2017?
Melbourne, Victoria
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V-Twin
Kristopher wrote:
I bought a 2016 Chieftain. It was built in December 2015. I don't care.
If you knew how many little things get updated (often improved) between model years, you might want a fresh bike as well.  Sometimes these changes are consciously implemented, while other times, it is because Polaris switched suppliers.  

In my book, if a bike is built in February 2014, that is not 2015 model.  If it was built in July 2014, will it make it a 2015 model?  Not in my book.  It is okay to buy knowing the build date but finding out later is little bitter to me.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Dr.Shifty
I think the industry sees August as the intro month for next year's MY. Perhaps somebody can correct this.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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V-Twin
Not sure which month every year. No doubt they might be different from company to company but there has to be a fair limit on when it’s made and what model year it can be called in my humble opinion.

Keep this in mind folks. When you ring the insurance company, they will ask you, "When was your bike built?"... they are NOT asking what the 'Model Year' is. Build date of December 2015 and January 2016 is only a month apart to us but a whole year for an insurance company. Remember, like-for-like replacement? If your bike is written off, they might give you a January 2015 bike... after all, it is still 2015 model.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Dr.Shifty
When I lived in the UK for a few years there was a definite date, like the horse's birthday.

UK number plates ended with a letter that showed MY. A new car in July ended with D. A new car in December ended with E. Those with a head for these things could look at the number plate and tell the year back for decades. People would say they wanted a D reg car, or E reg car etc.
Cheers, Kim.

From Woodrising (no, nobody else has heard of it either)
Rides a Springfield Dark Horse
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BarryM
Yes!,  buying a bike that is current in manufacturing and compliance date is worth a lot of $$$ to you. If it was a previous year purchase, effectively, you will suffer two years of depreciation.
If you bought a Dec 2016 compliance/build in Dec 2017, ... well, you just got yourself a brand new two year old bike that in one month of ownership putting into 2018.  If you try to sell it one year later, .. buyers will regard it as a three year old bike, ... not the 1 year that you have owned it!  That equates to a huge drop in the first year!   
I guess the best time to purchase would be early in the new year when the latest plates for that year start arriving at the dealers.
I hope this is of some help? ...... Baz  
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CHF10
BarryM wrote:
you just got yourself a brand new two year old bike that in one month of ownership putting into 2018.


What a completely ridiculous statement. Just STUPID! (not you personally of course) Your bike is as old as the day to PICK IT UP. Not when it was built. If it's sitting in the show room brand new, then it's brand new until it's ridden out of the showroom.

The distance it's travelled is actually the most important thing when it comes to resale value of used cars and bikes, if you plan on not keeping it that is. E.g. I would buy a 2015 bike with 10,000km on it and pay MORE for it as opposed to a 2017 bike with 20,000km on it.

My bike was sold to me as a 2016 model in December 2016 and I picked it up in January 2017. I could have bought a 2017 but didn't want the new BS touch screen setup - looks ugly and over the top - still does. So it was a deliberate decision to buy one of two NEW 2016 models left. It was built in 2015. It is registered and insured as a 2016 model because that's what Indian sold me. They did not sell me a 2015 MY16 bike. It was clearly stated and documented as a 2016 Indian. Now that we are in 2018 I have a "two year old bike" if you can't count. Dec 2016 - Feb 2018 is not two years.
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V-Twin
CHF10 wrote:
Your bike is as old as the day to PICK IT UP. Not when it was built. If it's sitting in the showroom brand new, then it's brand new until it's ridden out of the showroom.
That is not how insurance companies see it. And for that matter, the second-hand market in general either. If you check the valuation of a bike on BikeSales, just by adding a year, the price comes down. Hypothetically, if there was a 2015 Model Year Indian in the showroom and someone bought it in January 2018 and registered it for the very first time... is it a one month old bike OR 3 years old?
CHF10 wrote:
The distance it's travelled is actually the most important thing when it comes to the resale value of used cars and bikes
I believe both matters. So for example, if a motorcycle was 5 years old but it has only done 2,000kms, its value would be higher than another 5 year old bike with say, 30,000kms. Equally, a bike that has done 30,000kms but it is only 1 year old, the value would be at the lowest end of 1 year old bikes.
In reality, supply and demand applies too. When I asked about the value of my bike for a trade-in, it was several thousand dollars less than I realistically expected because the dealer had the exact same bike as mine (2016 Vintage), new, in the showroom and they couldn't move it for $30K.

I understand that some people will not be concerned about the 'real age' of the bike. However, please be aware that market value is less on an older bike.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Hunter
V-Twin wrote:
because the dealer had the exact same bike as mine (2016 Vintage), new, in the showroom and they couldn't move it for $30K.


Lol that sounds like the dealer's problem, not yours. 
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V-Twin
Hunter wrote:
Lol that sounds like the dealer's problem, not yours. 
🤔 It is their problem until I considered trading-in for a 3rd Indian... Melbourne dealer was ordered by Polaris HQ not to discount a cent on 2018 model bikes and trade-in was extra lousy.  The end result, no sale.  Back to being their problem.  😜
Melbourne, Victoria
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CHF10
What I said is exactly what my insurance company agreed to, insuring my 2016 bike as a 2016 bike. I guess it’s good to be with Shannons. Hahaha
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stevenlb21
My bike is tagged as a 2014 build date but when I went to insure it QBE they asked what did the Rego papers say and the was 2015 so they insured it as a 2015, now that's not my problem
Cheers......Steve
Penrith, NSW

2015 Indian Chieftain (Indian Motorcycle Red)
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V-Twin
CHF10 wrote:
What I said is exactly what my insurance company agreed to, insuring my 2016 bike as a 2016 bike. I guess it’s good to be with Shannons. Hahaha
In my limited experience, insurance companies will say and do anything... Until the claim goes in and they might start looking real close at your bike or your policy or both.  I’m not saying Shannon’s will do this... just a general comment re insurance companies.
Melbourne, Victoria
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Guz
My 5 cents is buy with your eyes open re MY year, but factory inclusions on last years are appealing and added to discounts makes up for this?  I figure on keeping mine for many years so that also forms part of the equation 
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Baz64
Totally agree V-Twin
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Hudson76
I checked the build date on the Bobber we just bought. Build date 05/18. Picking it up this Saturday 18/08/18.
Will and Katie.

2018 Bobber. Thunder Black Smoke. Fox shocks, reduce reach bars and Emgo slash cut slip on pipes.

Soon to come: PVCX and maybe a zippers intake.
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V-Twin
Hudson76 wrote:
Build date 05/18. Picking it up this Saturday 18/08/18.
Very fresh! Nice.  👍😀

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Melbourne, Victoria
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Cloud
I guess like most, I didnt put a lot of thought into it, saw the ad for a "demo" with Hi Flow AC, stage 1 pipes and stage 2 cams, after the ride I was sold, build date and purchase date was within a year of each other, so kinda alright, been lucky, no clacking after the cam install, 31 k later still a happy camper â¤ðŸ˜Ž
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2016 Chief Dark Horse
with a few modest mods
NOR Perth WA


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Cloud
Dr.Shifty wrote:
When I lived in the UK for a few years there was a definite date, like the horse's birthday.

UK number plates ended with a letter that showed MY. A new car in July ended with D. A new car in December ended with E. Those with a head for these things could look at the number plate and tell the year back for decades. People would say they wanted a D reg car, or E reg car etc.

interesting that you say that, an english friend pointed that out just looking at the rego plate
Ride Safe, Ride Often
2016 Chief Dark Horse
with a few modest mods
NOR Perth WA


IMRG AU - 101381
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