V-Twin
Hey all,

What do you folks use to clean your white wall tyres? I've heard some people use steel wool to clean but subsequently I read that it leaves micro grooves and it becomes harder to clean in the long run.

I asked Dan from Melbourne Dealership and he said there are magic spray 'n' wipe solution. Whatever you use, you have to rub hard to get them to their former glory. I hope he was still talking about tyres!! [biggrin]

There are new products released all the time. I'm hoping for a product that is safe to use on tyres (does not break down the rubber compound and does not make them slippery) but make it a little easier to maintain these 'pain in the butt' white wall tyres.

Any suggestion?


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Jimbo
WD40 works a treat - but it makes for interesting riding as soon as you get wet!

I now use Jif and a scour pad (you know - the ones with foam on one side and scour pad on the other).  It's quite messy so you need to rinse the tyres off well when you finish.

And it's a whole lot easier to put the bike up on a stand to do it - so you can rotate the wheels.
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V-Twin
Jimbo wrote:
WD40 works a treat - but it makes for interesting riding as soon as you get wet!

[eek] oil on tyre?! Hmmm... I will pass Jimbo! [biggrin]

Jimbo wrote:
I now use Jif and a scour pad

Ok... that could work. Might have to try that next time.

Jimbo wrote:

it's a whole lot easier to put the bike up on a stand to do it - so you can rotate the wheels.

Tell me about it. I was wheeling my bike forward and backwards several times in the garage today.
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Smog
V-Twin wrote:
Hey all, What do you folks use to clean your white wall tyres? I've heard some people use steel wool to clean but subsequently I read that it leaves micro grooves and it becomes harder to clean in the long run. I asked Dan from Melbourne Dealership and he said there are magic spray 'n' wipe solution.


As V- Twin says, cleaning the white walls can be a serious PITA[frown] But i do like my White walls nice and white. (the rear is still has a brown tinge, but as most would know that is a tyre issue).

I use a spray on product called Dura Gloss 701 whitewall tyre cleaner which i purchased on line from an Australian distributor called carcareproducts.com.au.

Spray it on and leave for a couple of minutes, then give the white wall a quick rub with a stiff brush or scouring pad, while you are there, give the chrome rim and spokes a wipe with the sponge, then hose off.

The result is very good, a fresh white sidewall and shiny chrome. This is the only product i have used, so i cannot offer comment on other products, but i am happy with this one.

The only problem is, is that you can only do 1 section at a time (as i said PITA)

As V-Twin said, you have to roll the bike backwards 3 times to clean a complete tyre[tounge2]

Can anyone suggest a reasonable bike lift that is on the market?

Sorry this may require a new post....
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V-Twin
Smog wrote:

I use a spray on product called Dura Gloss 701 whitewall tyre cleaner which i purchased on line from an Australian distributor called carcareproducts.com.au.


It seems, I will be buying more cleaning products.

Here is the link to the product Smog mentioned. It looks good. Thanks for sharing. This is why I love this forum. Individually we know some things, but collectively, we know a lot more. [biggrin]

https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/product/duragloss/whitewall_tyre_cleaner
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BlackVintage

Hi Guys

I find with my scooter a must is to get some air between it and terra firma when cleaning and of course fresh oil time. Mine is made in Aus and call themselves IB Bike Lifts. Have been using Jiff and a kitchen cloth since new. Front tyre easy peazy, rear tyre a bit of elbow grease needed. Some tan marks remain but all in all a good result.

Indian Regards
Brian
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V-Twin
Smog wrote:

the rear is still has a brown tinge, but as most would know that is a tyre issue...


There have been a few people who got their tyres replaced under warranty for browning here.

Also, there are new generation of American Elite that does not brown now... whether they are in Australia yet is another matter.

http://www.indianmotorcycleforum.com.au/post/dunlop-american-elite-whitewall-revised-8127412
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Smog
BlackVintage wrote:

Hi Guys

I find with my scooter a must is to get some air between it and terra firma when cleaning and of course fresh oil time. Mine is made in Aus and call themselves IB Bike Lifts.

Indian Regards
Brian


Hi Brian, I checked out the web site and watched the video. The bike lift looks good and easy to use.
How stable is the bike on full lift when you are working on it. Does it wobble or does it feel secure ?
I would appreciate your feed back.
Cheers, Smog.
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BlackVintage
G'Day Smog

Bike feels good and stable, even on maximum setting. One must just be careful when lowering the bike back down. It is such a fine line between fast and slow release. I am thinking of making a T handle so I have more control. It makes cleaning or working on the bike a godsend.

Cheers
Brian
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gazman
Easiest way to clean white wall tyre is to not have them.[biggrin][rofl]
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Frumpy
I use cheapie wheel mag wheel degreaser (from Reject shop, $2 can), hose this off then wash bike as normal, then the fun begins with green scourer and hard work. I can vouch for the I B lifter, bike is very secure. Just make sure the floor is clean, the smallest pebble will jam the steel rollers. When you spin the bike around is a bit scary, I've had my lift for more than a year now with no problems at all. The lift also makes oil changes easy and you can inspect under bike much easier.
The lift wasn't cheap but I think we'll worth it, you can buy different adaptors for different bikes, still use same lift.
Cheers.
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DAVO
I use Indian or Victory motorcycle white wall tyre and engine cleaner with a brass brush to scrub the tyre walls it also good for degreasing and brake dust, I use a super cheap auto atv lift to lift Chief for cleaning.
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Smog
Hi Black Vintage and Frumpy,
Thanks for your feedback on the I B bike lifter. I like the fact it is compact and easy to use and also it is supporting an Australian manufacturer.
Looks like it could be the one for me.
..... and to gazman, sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do [biggrin]
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BlackVintage
No worries Smog. I think it would suit your needs well.
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V-Twin
DAVO wrote:
I use Indian or Victory motorcycle white wall tyre and engine cleaner


Indian/Victory has their own white wall cleaner???   
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Smog
BlackVintage wrote:
G'Day Smog

Bike feels good and stable, even on maximum setting. One must just be careful when lowering the bike back down. It is such a fine line between fast and slow release. I am thinking of making a T handle so I have more control. It makes cleaning or working on the bike a godsend.

Cheers
Brian


I ordered the IB bike lift yesterday and it was delivered to my factory today!
Talk about service. It looks solid and well put together. On Brian's advice I added a "T" handle to help control the lowering action. The other thing I will do is grease the wheels so they roll a little easier.
I still have not put the bike on it yet,as it is in the shop getting a warrantee issue sorted.
I am looking forward to working on and cleaning the bike without crawling on all 4's.
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V-Twin
Smog wrote:
it is in the shop getting a warrantee issue sorted.


Congrats on your new bike lift. Very jealous! [thumb]

What's wrong with your bike and what is getting fixed?
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BlackVintage
Good move Smog. I think you will find it is worth every cent. I use a low seat on wheels to save my back and knees when cleaning the white walls. Working smarter, not harder.
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Smog
BlackVintage wrote:
Good move Smog. I think you will find it is worth every cent. I use a low seat on wheels to save my back and knees when cleaning the white walls. Working smarter, not harder.


Hi Brian,
             2 thumbs up for that [thumb][thumb]


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Smog
V-Twin wrote:
Congrats on your new bike lift. Very jealous! [thumb] What's wrong with your bike and what is getting fixed?


Hi V- Twin,
Squeaking drive belt (giving me the squirts) but also I noticed the rubber cushion drive now has some play in it.

The drive belt sprocket is connected to the back wheel via a rubber "cush drive" set up which has play in it. When new, they have no clearance, so I'm getting them to have a look at it, to see if it is getting "flogged out" before it gets worse.
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V-Twin
Smog wrote:
Squeaking drive belt (giving me the squirts) but also I noticed the rubber cushion drive now has some play in it.


Hey Smog,

Out of interest, what model year is your Vintage? I know 2016 has a revised design pulley with V-shaped pulley walls, while pre-2016 had U-shaped... this has been the cause of most belt squeaks so far. Some (not all) owners of pre-2016 did get their's replaced with newer design, while others were refused.

Re: Cush Drive - I learned something new today. Thanks. I didn't realise there was rubber blocks inside the sprocket. If anyone else wants to know what it is, here is a short video.




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Smog
V-Twin wrote:
Hey Smog, Out of interest, what model year is your Vintage? I know 2016 has a revised design pulley with V-shaped pulley walls, while pre-2016 had U-shaped... this has been the cause of most belt squeaks so far. Some (not all) owners of pre-2016 did get their's replaced with newer design, while others were refused.


Hi V- Twin,
                My bike is  2015 Vintage. I suspect it has the old design rear sprocket. I found out today that the rear alignment was out and the belt was constantly running on one side of the sprocket.[confused] 
Once I have the bike back I will see how it goes.
..... and thanks for the tip on fixing a worn "cush drive"
Cheers.
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Robbo
If your whitewalls are really bad you can get a rubberised whitewall tyre paint.
http://www.Mr whitewall.come

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Location - Perth, Western Australia
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V-Twin
Robbo wrote:
If your whitewalls are really bad you can get a rubberised whitewall tyre paint.
http://www.mrwhitewall.come


Good to know you can paint them Robbo!

I was at the dealership and spotted Indian branded White Wall cleaner spray. I guess that's only for Vintage now.

I will order Duragloss 701 soon.
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Robbo
Sorry the website was
http://www.mrwhitewalls.com

Might provide an option for replacing whitewalls as well as the company actuallly does whitewalling but they also sell the paint the use.
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